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  • May 3
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    eye contact

    Well clearly they couldn’t choose to allow it or not

    It’s possible that it was this genius legal checkmate move that forced Def Jam to accept such an unorthodox release as an “album”

    but I feel like it’s just as likely that they reached a stalemate where Frank was clearly not going to continue his relationship with the label, things were in flux there and if we’re being honest, a Hov/Roc nation call is likely a part of the story too.

  • May 3
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    2words

    It’s possible that it was this genius legal checkmate move that forced Def Jam to accept such an unorthodox release as an “album”

    but I feel like it’s just as likely that they reached a stalemate where Frank was clearly not going to continue his relationship with the label, things were in flux there and if we’re being honest, a Hov/Roc nation call is likely a part of the story too.

    That’s making way more assumptions that complicate the story

    Rocky already corroborated what happened in 2019

  • May 3
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    eye contact

    That’s making way more assumptions that complicate the story

    Rocky already corroborated what happened in 2019

    As opposed to buying the most simplistic, headline worthy version of the story that there clearly has to be more to

    Respect to @op for giving the benefit of the doubt. People who are against assumptions are anti intellectual at this point. If this is how we think, we just have to accept everything at face value that we’re told and there’s no room for filling in any blanks or questioning anything. Sad times

  • May 3
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    2words

    As opposed to buying the most simplistic, headline worthy version of the story that there clearly has to be more to

    Respect to @op for giving the benefit of the doubt. People who are against assumptions are anti intellectual at this point. If this is how we think, we just have to accept everything at face value that we’re told and there’s no room for filling in any blanks or questioning anything. Sad times

    Baseless speculation is not intellectualism and simply “thinking more about it” does not make your claim any more viable than a retart’s

  • May 3

    Especially when it’s something as asinine and parasocial to your world as Frank ocean’s contract with his label

  • eye contact

    Baseless speculation is not intellectualism and simply “thinking more about it” does not make your claim any more viable than a retart’s

    You really like dropping insensitive terms bruh idk why that’s your go to. I still ain’t forget before and now you calling me retarted too, real nice

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    Americana running around calling everyone retarted f words but it’s supposedly ok because he’s gay and part of the VZ/TNGHT cult. I’m so done with this s***. I’m having a discussion about music industry politics and it devolves into insults. This place was never like that

  • May 3
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    Americana running around calling everyone retarted f words but it’s supposedly ok because he’s gay and part of the VZ/TNGHT cult. I’m so done with this s***. I’m having a discussion about music industry politics and it devolves into insults. This place was never like that

    You're not done you'll keep going like everyone else

  • May 3
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    yesac

    You're not done you'll keep going like everyone else

    Except def jam they give up pretty quick apparently

  • May 3
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    Americana debate without saying slurs challenge: difficulty impossible

    F***ing a******, your name fits you, who the f*** proud of Americana, patriot ass

    You really bringing back that old Americana feeling dropping slurs in every debate

  • RCLamp

    That Endless and Boys Don’t Cry hype from July - August 2016 was some of the most fun I’ve ever had on the internet.

    Nothng will ever top it

  • 2words

    Americana running around calling everyone retarted f words but it’s supposedly ok because he’s gay and part of the VZ/TNGHT cult. I’m so done with this s***. I’m having a discussion about music industry politics and it devolves into insults. This place was never like that

    that cult is something demonic… dont try to fight against it, or we will lose you…

  • May 3
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    Stop asking questions

  • fun guy

    Stop asking questions

  • May 3
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    2words

    Except def jam they give up pretty quick apparently

    Surprised they didnt sue the f*** out of him tbh

  • May 3
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    nocomment

    Surprised they didnt sue the f*** out of him tbh

    It makes no sense. No one can convince me Jay Z not involved

  • May 3
    2words

    It makes no sense. No one can convince me Jay Z not involved

    Jay-Z greedy ass wouldn't have done this in 2016 without making Blonde a Tidal exclusive.

  • Yeah but now we'll never get another album from him again

  • bmass 🇵🇭
    May 3
    2words

    Americana debate without saying slurs challenge: difficulty impossible

    F***ing a******, your name fits you, who the f*** proud of Americana, patriot ass

    You really bringing back that old Americana feeling dropping slurs in every debate

    Vz thread still waiting for you to call it home

  • May 3
    Water Giver

    Def Jam counted it as an official release

    Endless "fake album" ish is dumb tho and just created by people upset at the Endless stair stream - it is an actual project and the songs were genuine worked on songs with Vegyn, he just didn't put any effort into it outside of the music to not waste his own time getting out of there and to not give anymore money to def jam

    That's the facts, but on my own conjecture:

    • to me he gave them the more "artsy" album that wouldn't make as much money and especially with him not working it to def jam to not feed them, while keeping the more "commerical" album for himself to make money off of to survive whatever transition period and potential issues might arise that would get him till his (at the time) next planned release

    Nigga are you using ChatGPT lol