Or pop fans
An easier example since there are so many on this site

Good thing the world is bigger then American bro. News flash, there is a global left wing that are anti capitalist. Where do you think the idea of being anti capitalist came from and which governments practiced it? All outside of America and the west

Im an FBA from Memphis Tennessee bro as well as a pan African socialist

Maga communism is literally a political psypop carried out by a bunch of ngo talking heads

liberals are pretty big consumers, so idk what you mean @op

Look at Diddy and Hov hanging around a right wing politician.

Well yeah when I mean right wing I mean siding with the capitalist white supremacist system. Which all these rappers do by being mules for white/Jewish companies

All that firepower and she couldn't get s*** done 😂

Yea exactly. You even have old head rappers talking about the way white execs completely control the messaging in hiphop

lefties are so broke that paper chasing is seen as right wing now

eh, i disagree.

you’re saying someone selling CDs out of their trunk and hosting block parties, fundamentally displayed a capitalist individualism mindset? because this only became the case when white labels got involved, from my understanding. prior to, the artists were just hustling in their local cities and wherever else they could get support like college towns or like i said, community led parties and MC/DJ sets.

you’re saying hiphop is fundamentally built upon men displaying prejudice against women? another thing i have to disagree with. hiphop is like multiple trees all meeting in the middle and branching off into their own sectors. I don’t think we can just place one definitive explanation outside of it being a lyrical display over instrumental about one’s perspective on a topic. from here it’s given us so many iterations, you can’t simply say it’s fundamentally that unless you have clear examples of it being that throughout its history, where it’ll be pretty easy to find the opposite happening probably more often.

brand worship? eh, idk. all them niggas was wearing brands we don’t even really wear today, it was just the popular fashion of the time but everyone had their own unique style. okay, they made niggas like Ralph Lauren rich, but Kanye got to $6B valuation and that’s off a pretty avant grande style of rap. and everyone was trying to buy it cause it was “high fashion” at an affordable price, so idk how that’s fundamentally right wing. and through it didn’t really display a right wing observation of women, which would be prejudice, but rather a struggle for love. which is something many artists displayed during the last 2 decades of hiphop. but idk what point brand worship has to do with right wing so idek how to properly argue this one

but yea, hiphop can’t be fundamentally built on political definitions. that’s conflating to make a point that don’t really make sense, in my opinion.

Niggas just be talking

Those are leftists who have that view. That doesn’t mean it’s a requirement to be left wing or that you’re not left wing if u don’t adopt those ideas. You can be capitalist, annd believe in capitalism and be left wing. Being LEFTIST is not the same as LEFT WING.
Also NEWSFLASH ur talking about an American genre that came from black Americans

Saying hip hop should die as a form of expression is such a thinly veiled anti black thing to preach for lol yea let’s just kill one of the most popular and impactful exports of black culture cuz they aren’t socialist like me man these types guys are so narrow minded that s*** actually got me hot why would any of you co-sign that

Never thought I’d see the day someone would shame selling clothes, getting fresh, and hustling to get you and your people rich as some right wing s*** and say Hip Hop needs to die because of it

Saying you can be capitalist and left wing is a pretty ridiculous idea considering the history of global leftism. You purely get this idea from American liberal politics and it's off shoots. Marxist ideology if anything is the basis for what is called left today especially in the western context. If a country wants to free itself from the rule of the oppressive capitalist white supremacists what do they usually do? Adopt anti capitalism

Our identity is bigger than music made to consume brother......

then listen to the music that’s not made to consume and let people enjoy what they enjoy as it doesn’t have to encroach upon what you like or affect your view of the genre

Common Valentine W

i think we should spend more time engaging with the music than than criticizing it as you miss out and then judge based off anecdotal evidence. of course hiphop has seen a massive influx of consumerist driven artists, but wait until you hear about the pop girls and their games or kpop lmao. so that’s all i mean, it’s a lot going on but we can’t start comparing hiphop to politics

What do u mean let people enjoy? It's a music forum and I posted what I thought would be an interesting discussion

your sentence could be read as “you can do better” which insinuates “why you choose to listen to that?”

i think your thread was great, which is why i typed an essay up top

USA is cooked. Need other countries to lead us in entertainment from now on.

liberals are right wing as well