You cited God’s Plan and Hotline Bling above as successful Drake M/V but now memeing is unacceptable?
God's Plan was successful because of the video concept first
Hotline Bling was successful because it was just a cool video to look at
wtf is cool about the Munch music video besides Ice Spice shaking her ass?
Nicki and ice ain’t getting nearly as many streams on their s*** as they’re getting watched on video though
They also routinely rely on actual talented artists by featuring on their s*** such as Taylor swift, Bieber, PinkPantheress, Drake, etc to get their hits
Ice Spice’s EP is the most streamed rap project on Spotify so far this year
Ice Spice’s EP is the most streamed rap project on Spotify so far this year
This years been dreadful for rap lol
This years been dreadful for rap lol
That’s not what you said though. You said people aren’t listening to her music as much as they watch her videos. That’s just not true
it capitalized on her name which blew up off her shaking her ass in that meme ass Munch music video so more people heard it
but everyone is mostly singing the hook and loves it because its just a great song. Nobody knows anything about Ice's verse besides that line I mentioned. She was an afterthought on the song.
this is so false wtf
Everyone knows ice spice verse, both her and Pink helped the song make it a hit
I think it's because most of these female artists parading around their bodies don't have an ounce of talent musically.
Jimi, Bowie, MJ, Prince were attractive but even they had their controversial moments. And these are literally 4 of the most talented artists ever seen in music. Stop acting like as if the media and the public word of mouth weren't getting upset about Bowie's crossdressing antics or MJ's crotch grabbing. The other thing too is that while these were things they did, it wasn't ALL they did. You don't see Prince half naked in every music video shaking his ass like Ice Spice or Nicki Minaj. He did s*** like that as a one off and it caused controversy even then.
Notice how Doja mostly saw love all across the music world after her first album. Yeah she was selling her body but unlike artists like Nicki, Cardi or Ice Spice who literally blew up with songs like Anaconda, WAP, Munch and dedicate nearly every video to showing off their bodies, Doja actually was displaying musical talent through her videos and her songs (something I can't say any of those other artists have ever done).
I'd say nowadays, men get more in trouble for trying to sexualize themselves than women do. Sam Smith is getting absolutely annihilated for his new direction in a way I haven't seen any woman even come close to receiving since Britney or Madonna.
…bowie, prince and MJ caught flack for the s*** that they did because for their time it was considered extremely sexually provocative, prince was literally posing naked and talking about wanting to f*** the taste out of someone’s mouth in songs in a staunchly conservative and traditionalist America. it had little to nothing to do with their actual s***appeal and this entire diatribe you went on is completely tangential to what i was even saying
my point, is that it’s a blatant double standard to critique and s*** on women for using their s***appeal to push and sell their music, while excusing men or making no mention of them doing it because you consider them “talented” or whatever arbitrary metric you wanna toss out there. my issue is people using womens’ sexiness as a tool to detract from their art, this literally does not happen with dudes at all
Nicki and Cardi in particular were already popping off before Anaconda or WAP, Nicki in particular, her prime was literally Roman Reloaded era, and im fairly sure @dedication would back me up on this lmao. she didn’t magically become a superstar juggernaut as soon as she released a hyper-sexual video
im not denying that s***appeal is used to promote and increase popularity for some of these women, but to simply distill all of their music or fame to just “they’re only popping because they’re sexy” is literal nonsense
Nobody wants to see Drake shirtless in a video, probably not even Drake himself. But that’s his choice not to be. How are you gonna say Nicki and Ice have no musical talent because they have sexualized videos yet millions of people stream the audio?
Seems like you just don't like Nicki or Ice and are justifying that because of their video content. Most men refuse to listen to female rap anyway so you’re not really in the minority, let’s not pretend it’s because they sexualize themselves in videos tho.
”Most men refuse to listen to female rap anyway so you’re not really in the minority, let’s not pretend it’s because they sexualize themselves in videos tho.”
That’s not what you said though. You said people aren’t listening to her music as much as they watch her videos. That’s just not true
the nigga don’t got an argument man he’s just sexist
God's Plan was successful because of the video concept first
Hotline Bling was successful because it was just a cool video to look at
wtf is cool about the Munch music video besides Ice Spice shaking her ass?
Sorry you lost me here. What’s cool about Hotline Bling?
Ok fine
You don’t see Drake half naked shaking his ass in every video
Is that a recent enough example?
You sound like you don’t enjoy Women’s music. If so then dont pay attention. Why tf do you care?
God's Plan was successful because of the video concept first
Hotline Bling was successful because it was just a cool video to look at
wtf is cool about the Munch music video besides Ice Spice shaking her ass?
People were saying Hotline Bling would be his first #1 when the song dropped. There was only a video for it cause mfs knew it would be a smash. Same with God’s Plan
Nicki and ice ain’t getting nearly as many streams on their s*** as they’re getting watched on video though
They also routinely rely on actual talented artists by featuring on their s*** such as Taylor swift, Bieber, PinkPantheress, Drake, etc to get their hits
Nicki Minaj is one of the most streamed hip hop artist OAT
Not every song has to be a hit on the charts
Imagine if Kendrick dropped SAMIDOT today and people called it a flop because it didn’t debut top 10 on the hot 100
Toxic mentality
Nicki Minaj is one of the most streamed hip hop artist OAT
this dude fr thinks that nicki has singlehandedly blown up because she shows her body off in videos, absolutely nothing with her talents and how she literally made the blueprint for the modern day female rapper
it capitalized on her name which blew up off her shaking her ass in that meme ass Munch music video so more people heard it
but everyone is mostly singing the hook and loves it because its just a great song. Nobody knows anything about Ice's verse besides that line I mentioned. She was an afterthought on the song.
Her verse outshines Pinkpantheress, there’s ppl that only care for that as an ice spice song what are you talking about
like i don’t even like nicki’s music like that and even i can see through the f*** s***
this dude fr thinks that nicki has singlehandedly blown up because she shows her body off in videos, absolutely nothing with her talents and how she literally made the blueprint for the modern day female rapper
Tbh tho Trina was doing it before her, and todays female rapper (2020s) is more Trina than Nicki but yeah Nicki gets a ton of credit too