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  • Jul 19, 2021
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    CurlyZ

    At this point I’d take authoritarian communism over American capitalist authoritarianism.

    Like we already get brutalized by the state police, but It’d be nice to get free healthcare to go along with it.

    dammm this crazy to think about things being this bad for this to be a viewpoint.

  • Jul 19, 2021
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    spongebob

    dammm this crazy to think about things being this bad for this to be a viewpoint.

    We got two choices.

    Be oppressed by a nanny state government with a social safety net or be oppressed by the billionaire class and have the government goons beat us in the streets and watch us starve.

  • Jul 19, 2021
    CurlyZ

    We got two choices.

    Be oppressed by a nanny state government with a social safety net or be oppressed by the billionaire class and have the government goons beat us in the streets and watch us starve.

  • Jul 19, 2021
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    CurlyZ

    At this point I’d take authoritarian communism over American capitalist authoritarianism.

    Like we already get brutalized by the state police, but It’d be nice to get free healthcare to go along with it.

    Well you're allowed to leave the us

    Speaks volumes that wasnt the case for many auth communist countries

  • Jul 19, 2021

    CIA fell off bro, this s*** flopped quick

  • Jul 19, 2021
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    Well you're allowed to leave the us

    Speaks volumes that wasnt the case for many auth communist countries

    A lot of people in the US can’t leave the US because they can’t afford to. There are many ways to be held down by a system.

  • Jul 19, 2021
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    CurlyZ

    A lot of people in the US can’t leave the US because they can’t afford to. There are many ways to be held down by a system.

    Inability to afford is still less of a constraint than a physical wall and guards preventing your exit

  • Jul 19, 2021

    lol castro let too many of those fascists leave

  • Jul 20, 2021
    TragedyBerlusconi

    Inability to afford is still less of a constraint than a physical wall and guards preventing your exit

    Same result. Different method

  • Jul 20, 2021
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    someone want to post the bad the gov has done as well as the positives? People on instagram really going hard for the protestors who want democracy

  • Jul 20, 2021
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    ragedsycokiller

    someone want to post the bad the gov has done as well as the positives? People on instagram really going hard for the protestors who want democracy

    In what sense

  • Jul 20, 2021
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    Synopsis

    In what sense

    I guess some of the failures it has done to their people in the past years similar to how we review Biden or Trump. I'm learning a lot about Cuba rn in between work and art, so I can't get everything at once.

    Want to know both sides of the argument some of these people have.

  • Jul 20, 2021
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    ragedsycokiller

    I guess some of the failures it has done to their people in the past years similar to how we review Biden or Trump. I'm learning a lot about Cuba rn in between work and art, so I can't get everything at once.

    Want to know both sides of the argument some of these people have.

    I think anyone talking about the failures of the cuban government without mentioning the embargo is operating in bad faith

  • Jul 20, 2021
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    ragedsycokiller

    I guess some of the failures it has done to their people in the past years similar to how we review Biden or Trump. I'm learning a lot about Cuba rn in between work and art, so I can't get everything at once.

    Want to know both sides of the argument some of these people have.

    embargo is pointlessly cruel but im sure they havent done everything correctly

  • Jul 20, 2021
    TragedyBerlusconi

    embargo is pointlessly cruel but im sure they havent done everything correctly

    as no one has,

    there’s the question of what choices the cuban government is making directly in regards to their current conditions and what they don’t have access to because of the embargo

  • Jul 20, 2021
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    Synopsis

    I think anyone talking about the failures of the cuban government without mentioning the embargo is operating in bad faith

    i think it’s absolutely necessary to consider both of those parts and i think some socialists may have been missing that aspect with the messaging on this too, just bc we want socialism to succeed doesn’t mean individual leadership can’t be criticized and demanded to be better,

    and then u have people who are saying “Listen to Cubans! It’s not about the US!” and it’s like yes we should listen to cubans but this situation is inseparable from the US when there’s a 60 year embargo affecting what your economy can and can’t do

  • Synopsis

    I think anyone talking about the failures of the cuban government without mentioning the embargo is operating in bad faith

    I agree with that, but I still would like to hear the failures either ways. No gov is perfect

  • Jul 20, 2021
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    spongebob

    i think it’s absolutely necessary to consider both of those parts and i think some socialists may have been missing that aspect with the messaging on this too, just bc we want socialism to succeed doesn’t mean individual leadership can’t be criticized and demanded to be better,

    and then u have people who are saying “Listen to Cubans! It’s not about the US!” and it’s like yes we should listen to cubans but this situation is inseparable from the US when there’s a 60 year embargo affecting what your economy can and can’t do

    When we talk about the failings of cuban governance that can be done in a private manner among like minded ppl who only want to a***yze those failures to improve upon in the future

    In public amongst reactionaries and capitalist bootlickers? Tell em to eat dirt

  • Jul 20, 2021
    Synopsis

    When we talk about the failings of cuban governance that can be done in a private manner among like minded ppl who only want to a***yze those failures to improve upon in the future

    In public amongst reactionaries and capitalist bootlickers? Tell em to eat dirt

    fair point, they’d just be looking for more ammo against socialism instead of a good faith discussion

  • instagram.com/p/CRiAa3KrLlf/?utm_medium=copy_link

    Yeah s*** like this is spreading and a lot of it is. So I'm trying to see where this s*** is coming from and what things the gov is doing itself

  • Jul 21, 2021
    ARCADE GOON

    This will end up like the Hong Kong protests: CIA s*** going absolutely nowhere

    Quote me in 1 year

    most of the protestors being interviewed & videos of protests are gusanos from Miami lol not even actual Cubans

  • Jul 22, 2021
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    ARCADE GOON

    This will end up like the Hong Kong protests: CIA s*** going absolutely nowhere

    Quote me in 1 year

    Whoa I thought the Hong Kong protests were real s***? Wasn't most of this site rooting for them?

  • Jul 22, 2021
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    i’m ill informed on this topic and just trying to get a better understanding from actual cubans who live there and it’s been mixed.

    there’s 2 sides. both say that the embargo is an issue and should be lifted, but one side is putting more blame on the cuban government and saying that even if the embargo is lifted, it wouldn’t solve the problems in cuba because the embargo excludes food and medical supplies, and that the cuban government pays people in pesos but some of the major stores sell goods in USD. but i’ve heard more from the other side saying that people in cuba are happy and live good, they just want the embargo lifted. idk what to make of it

  • Jul 22, 2021
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    ragedsycokiller

    I guess some of the failures it has done to their people in the past years similar to how we review Biden or Trump. I'm learning a lot about Cuba rn in between work and art, so I can't get everything at once.

    Want to know both sides of the argument some of these people have.

    i think this may help? sorry for the tiktok link but it’s been resourceful

    vm.tiktok.com/ZMdtAUH2y

  • Jul 22, 2021
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    throwawayokay

    i think this may help? sorry for the tiktok link but it’s been resourceful

    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdtAUH2y/

    thank you, this is what im looking for. onto more research then

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