The US ohas no right whatsoever to decide what economic model other countries choose to implement or with whom they want to have good relations with, not even gonna discuss that

yes i agree, but at this point it had more to with politics than economics

... what

what i mean is that, it wasn't about money or anything

Not strictly about direct access to Cuban resources, that doesn't mean their motive wasn't econimic.

america doesnt need their resources it wasn't about that.

i can confidently sayuno economistse in america were supportive of what was happening in cuba.

i say this because capitalists don't support embargos or trade restrictions with countries

Yes that's what I said it wasn't strictly about access to Cuban resources, the motive was still economic.

from what i know it wasn't can u show me some evidence or soemthin ? im interested

Don't have the time to dig that up right now I got a psychometrics exam tomorrow but pretty much the whole Cold War boiled down to economic interests, in the long term not short term

so many social media comments just like this lol

I meant weird as in there’s a specific relationship there that is like, you’re inextricably connected but still trying to dominate what the smaller country can do, as opposed to countries we have a less of a connection to.

this thread makes sense like 20% of the time

What about for you. not america. or are u saying you agree with those american sentiments/hostility

Power to the people

no i didn't agreee wit americas embargos past the gun embargo.

i dont agree with anything america did in cuba and how they handled it. i've always said americas foreign policy is 95% awful.

i mean from what i've read the cuba support of ussr and communism was a reason they did what they did in cuba/south america.

the only thing the US is waiting on is for cuban government to bow and say “we were wrong oh holy united states, please allow us to have capitalism as you’ve so demonstrated is a successful ideology even though your wealth inequality and healthcare and education and police and evictions are rampant with such rich resources and money at your disposal “

the means were economic but the idea of the embargoes was to make sure that a communist society wasn't able to thrive and make the political system as a whole look inept

its political

it seems you’re trying to explain american reasoning for being anti communist

I don’t think that’s needed and we’re all pretty familiar with what US reasoning was according to itself.

I’m more so wondering what YOU actually think, instead of what the US perspective has been for 70 odd years

i think its because america literally gains nothing from lifting the embargos and cubans living america would protest the idea (which i think should be lifted)

no one is disagreeing with the common knowledge that is the american reasoning of the past

now if you want to stick to that, reconcile that with the present day,

we will see in time what the true rhetoric american govt is pushing, right now it seems to be just posturing up for whatever’s next and no real intent to see cuba in a better place

yeah they dont care about seeing cuba in a better place because of their history

The embargoes on Cuba were literally put in place to restrict their access to capitalist markets after the revolution created social ownership of land which greatly affected Cuba's prior trade relationships with the U.S. (largely concerning the island's sugar market and exports).

The U.S. put embargoes on Cuba, outlawed all banks headquartered or parented in America from interacting with Cuba's economy, manipulated international commerce by rejecting trade contracts with any foreign merchants who engaged with Cuban trade, and persuaded other European countries to stop investing in Cuba's economy — all after the revolution decreased America's sizeable control over Cuban capital.

sure.

at least i think we’re in agreement the embargo should be lifted

the confusing thing was just the fact you were choosing to relate (what should be outdated by now, but isn’t) American views on Cuba in response to opinions, it made it seem like you were pro-containment / pro-embargo when you were repeating why the American government was doing this, even if that’s not your personal viewpoint which i don’t believe it is

If you're arguing that they didn't want the communist politcal system to spread because it's supposedly inherently undemocratic then you're wrong, because they also opposed socialist governments that played by all the rules of liberal democracy.

It was all about economic interests, it was just always presented as a fight for "freedom", but that's just propaganda.