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    Wiz didn't do a bad job for Kush and OJ 2

  • They never fully commit to it

    Like The-Dream for example all he had to literally do was use the exact same sounds as from Love Hate 1 and this nigga got Trap beats and trap era Pharrell beats on Love Hate 2 lol. Like what

  • Mark Moschino

    in the way you're asking it. it basically just means this guy has no presence anymore and is making a deliberate ploy to existing fans

    but in a broader scope it becomes a more difficult question @op because there's an argument that artistic trajectory isn't a linear thing.

    I'm sure you as an artist knows that a lot of times when writing songs you use progressions/techniques that youve definitely used before to create similar feelings between songs, so i guess you're mileage may vary

    It would be better if they didnt announce it as a return to old vibes and it was just a pleasant surprise that they Returned to old vibes a little bit

    Like i can see Medicated Kanye trying to cash in on Good Ass Job and bringing back the college era album skits with Druski or whoever but the actual music would still be trap beats and loose ideas like his post Donda albums. Its rare people can go back

  • Never works because creativity just doesn’t work that way

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    MOTM3 to an extent? idk if Cudi said he was going back to old Cudi style but the title kinda does that on its own. there was a decent amount of filler though

  • hadji

    Yeah I guess I'm thinking more about presentation than actual musical technique and sound. If you build upon a foundation you started with then that's totally fine and sometimes in music that can look like very subtle tweaks

    The other part I didn't really mention in this video that maybe I should have is that for an artist to say they're bringing something back, it implies it left, or that they lost their way somewhere along the way. Which maybe is the requirement for this whole convo haha

    i mean the succinct answer is just what other people are saying itt.

    artist's can't go back to being young and hungry. Their output worsens because theres not the same level of stakes to it

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    Jay-Z somewhat successfully brought the old vibes back with the "American Gangster" album.

  • Laced

    Wiz didn't do a bad job for Kush and OJ 2

    Yeah that's all I could think of for a deliberate "I'm coming back this sound" without dusting off old loosies.

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    Jay-Z somewhat successfully brought the old vibes back with the "American Gangster" album.

    I feel like he still presented it with a bit of a fresher angle

  • Nah usually an artist does a sequel to their most acclaimed album after they are "washed". Never lives up and only for marketing

  • A E M 8

    Jay-Z somewhat successfully brought the old vibes back with the "American Gangster" album.

    Was lowkey gonna say i dont see it as impossible for Jay to do a Reasonable Doubt or Black Album sequel

  • SABMAN TURNT

    MOTM3 to an extent? idk if Cudi said he was going back to old Cudi style but the title kinda does that on its own. there was a decent amount of filler though

    That s*** didn’t have MOTM vibes at all
    It’s a cool if not good album, but we gotta be honest

  • LL Cool J's The Force

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    i mean the succinct answer is just what other people are saying itt.

    artist's can't go back to being young and hungry. Their output worsens because theres not the same level of stakes to it

    Depends on how genuine the first thing was

    You cant be young and hungry again but you can identify a type of rapping and beat style down to a science to where its just about execution

  • Anyone who said this is already lost in the sauce

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    Does Stillmatic count?

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    SABMAN TURNT

    MOTM3 to an extent? idk if Cudi said he was going back to old Cudi style but the title kinda does that on its own. there was a decent amount of filler though

    Man on the moon 3 title was a cash grab based on TikTok kids giving his nearly dead career at the time a second life

    If anything he put out since motm2 fit that lineage enough to justify the title it would’ve been ppds

  • Chance the Rapper

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    Weeknd with mdm?

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    Weeknd with mdm?

    also true

  • Lupe Tetsuo and Youth for sure

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    Weeknd with mdm?

    not really that ep doesn’t touch the early stuff

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    Does Stillmatic count?

    No because it doesn’t sound like Nas’s old stuff

    That’s literally the album’s mission statement that Nas raps on the intro haha

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    That Metroboomin album that sounds like early 2000s hip hop was good and had some hits.

  • MMLP2 compared to the original one.

    He should've just renamed that album "Rap God" or something.