Synopsis

5y

So the united nations and european union, aka western capitalist nations, as well as all those other countries you mentioned lol. this isn't telling me anything.

And no one claimed North Korea was a communist utopia. They control their media? pal, every country controls their media. Now tell me why are the people in poverty? could it perhaps be because of the sanctions you mentioned? and im sorry but if america is going to have nukes, and has actually killed 20% of north koreas population, then yeah, maybe they should be looking for ways to defend themselves by all means necessary

Theory

5y

There’s the western propaganda comment

It’s funny that you think everything you read about these countries is false unless it comes approved from the dictatorships but are claiming others are misinformed

In America, we see publications s*** on our government all the time, we can read all about the terrible things we do and we can read how other countries view us without modification.

China and Russia, some of their very few allies, also have sanctions on them.

Their poverty exists as a result of sanctions, yes. Most governments would try to get these sanctions to end instead of posturing themselves in a way that is guaranteed to increase sanctions. The government has money and spends it on things that don’t directly benefit their people. I never thought I’d see you argue for a government to spend more on military and providing lavish lifestyles for the wealthy over helping their people out of poverty.

And I didn’t say they don’t have a justified reason for having nuclear weapons, I said them having nuclear weapons makes them dangerous (true for all countries that have nuclear arsenals).

Synopsis

5y

Because it is western propaganda lmao sorry if the truth bothers you.

And here you are, repeatedly ascribing to me things I have not said. Do better.

Their poverty exists as a result of sanctions, there you go, all you need to say. What you are arguing instead is, that they have no right to self determination. they must give into the sanctions and follow the western prescribed way of living in order to alleviate them.

And like I said, lmk when major media outlets start critiquing capitalism and showcasing its alternative. The democrats and republicans dont care if they get criticized in the media. f***ing billionaires own our media lmfao. you think that equals a free press simply because they help keep up the ruse of the two party system? give me a break

hot pancakes

5y

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This giant catalog of information contains genetic blueprints drawn from virus samples studied at the lab in Wuhan, China which some officials believe may have been the source of the Covid-19 outbreak, multiple people familiar with the matter tell CNN.

It's unclear exactly how or when US intelligence agencies gained access to the information, but the machines involved in creating and processing this kind of genetic data from viruses are typically connected to external cloud-based servers -- leaving open the possibility they were hacked, sources said.

SOURCE: https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/politics/covid-origins-genetic-data-wuhan-lab/index.html

Protests in Hong Kong, Taiwan, the COVID-19 pandemic and accusations China's engaged in a genocide against the Uighur Muslims are sowing deeper divisions in an already strained relationship between China and the United States. With Beijing one of America's top concerns, President Joe Biden has sought to strike a stern tone, while China sees much of America's actions and comments to be an encroachment on its sovereignty.

The increasingly confrontational rhetoric and military maneuvers coming out of the two countries have raised concerns about a potential war.

We must be prepared for an intense showdown between China and the U.S.," Hu wrote in a Thursday op-ed for the Global Times. "The number of China's nuclear warheads must reach the quantity that makes U.S. elites shiver should they entertain the idea of engaging in a military confrontation with China."

Hu advocated for "rapidly" increasing the number of commissioned nuclear warheads, DF-41s, an intercontinental ballistic missile, and strategic missiles that have "long-range" capabilities.

SOURCE: https://www.newsweek.com/china-state-media-says-country-must-prepare-nuclear-war-us-after-biden-asks-covid-probe-1596568

SOURCE: https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/556452-faucis-private-pandemic-emails-reveal-responses

EMAILS: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/20793561-leopold-nih-foia-anthony-fauci-emails

“The US doesn't care about facts or truth at all, neither is it interested in a serious scientific study on the origins. Its only aim is to use the pandemic for stigmatization and political manipulation to shift the blame," said Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Zhao Lijian.

Zhao then referenced Fort Detrick, a US Army biomedical research laboratory in Maryland that has been linked -- without evidence -- to the emergence of the virus by Chinese officials and state media outlets.

"What secrets are hidden in the suspicion-shrouded Fort Detrick and the over 200 US bio-labs all over the world?" Zhao said, adding that the US "owes an explanation to the world."

The Fort Detrick theory started to surface in Chinese state media reports last March, but it gained significant traction in China early this year, around the time the World Health Organization (WHO) visited Wuhan to examine the origins of the virus.

SOURCE: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/28/china/china-coronavirus-lab-leak-floods-mic-intl-hnk/index.html

On the same day that United States President Joe Biden announced he had directed the national intelligence community to redouble its efforts into the origin of Covid-19, Facebook said it would no longer remove from its platforms claims that the virus was man-made.

The company had announced in February it would remove any such claims after “consultations with leading health organizations, including the World Health Organization (WHO).”

But in a statement to CNN on Wednesday, a Facebook spokesperson said: “In light of ongoing investigations into the origin of Covid-19 and in consultation with public health experts, we will no longer remove the claim that Covid-19 is man-made from our apps. We’re continuing to work with health experts to keep pace with the evolving nature of the pandemic and regularly update our policies as new facts and trends emerge,” the spokesperson added.

SOURCE: https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-vaccine-updates-05-27-21/h_3868f66c95aad93295bdaab921559fef

Statement directly from Facebook:

In light of ongoing investigations into the origin of COVID-19 and in consultation with public health experts, we will no longer remove the claim that COVID-19 is man-made or manufactured from our apps. We’re continuing to work with health experts to keep pace with the evolving nature of the pandemic and regularly update our policies as new facts and trends emerge.

SOURCE: https://about.fb.com/news/2020/04/covid-19-misinfo-update/

President Joe Biden said Wednesday he has directed the US intelligence community to redouble their efforts in investigating the origins of the Covid-19 pandemic and report back to him in 90 days.

The announcement comes after a US intelligence report found several researchers at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology fell ill in November 2019 and had to be hospitalized -- a new detail that fueled further debate about the origins of the coronavirus pandemic.

"As part of that report, I have asked for areas of further inquiry that may be required, including specific questions for China. I have also asked that this effort include work by our National Labs and other agencies of our government to augment the Intelligence Community's efforts. And I have asked the Intelligence Community to keep Congress fully apprised of its work," Biden said in a statement.

SOURCE: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/26/politics/biden-intelligence-community-pandemic-origins-report/index.html

After a US intelligence report found that several researchers at China's Wuhan Institute of Virology fell ill in November 2019, a former commissioner of the US Food and D*** Administration said on Monday that there is "growing circumstantial evidence" that Covid-19 may have come from a lab.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian on Monday refuted the report and accused the US of "hyping up the lab leak theory."

"Through field visits and in-depth visits in China, the experts unanimously agreed that the allegation of lab leaking is extremely unlikely," Zhao said.

"I think the challenge right now is that the side of the ledger that supports the thesis that this came from a zoonotic source, from an animal source, hasn't budged," Dr. Scott Gottlieb said on CNBC's "Squawk Box." "And the side of the ledger that suggests this could have come out of a lab has been continuing to grow,"

Whether the virus derived from an animal or a lab, it is important for health experts to know, CNN Medical A***yst Dr. Leana Wen said.

"We need to understand what the origin is, if there is in fact an intermediary animal between bats and humans we need to understand because there may be a reservoir of disease we should be looking for," Wen said. "If this is indeed a lab leak, we should also understand for the purposes of securing lab safety protocols."
Among the unanswered questions are how seriously the researchers fell ill, when they got sick and if the virus was already circulating before then, Wen said.

The Chinese government has not been transparent on this issue, she said, but it is important the global community get down to the bottom of it.

"This is not the last pandemic that we are going to see and understanding the origin of this will help us to prevent something like this from happening in the future," she said.

SOURCE: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/25/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html

Fauci saying it’s possible COVID came
from unnatural circumstances

COVID Lab Escape Theory

Wikipedia: Investigations into the origin of COVID-19

Mango

5y

The US has conducted covert operations in China, has taken on a trade war, have bases in neighboring countries, our Navy patrols the seas surrounding them, we inundate them with propaganda, etc. Fomenting tension domestically is laying the groundwork for naked aggression and escalation.

Look at the title of this thread. Look at the stickied thread about the uighur genocide. The only reason to comment here is to "defend China". Otherwise you are complicit with this hawkish rhetoric. There are no apolitical positions. A good faith critique serves the same purpose as a bad faith one.

Lou

5y

broke: bat soup
woke: china bioweapon
bespoke: US bioweapon

Womanpuncher69

5y

Its cause at end of the day, yall end up justifying American actions in these areas saying the other guy is worse due to some notion of American Exceptionalism, when that never been the case, and most communist here dont even like China, most of us hate Deng reforms, but theres a difference between criticising china and repeating American propaganda pushed to manufacture consent

newgodlevel

5y

because democracy can only exist when there's economic democracy, and China is the only major power trying to achieve economic democracy (through socialism)?

deadacc

5y

CCP has an 80% approval rating

Sounds like the people support the government to me isn't that democracy ?

Q3D

5y

What if both the US and China were to blame in the end

deadacc

5y

how is china un-democratic if the people support the government resoundedly?