Mans should stfu and stop tryna make it seem like he knew about all this or could've fixed it.

Now the Democrats will do everything to hide true evidence (if there is any) just so Donny here doesn't get to act like he got a W

Apartheid governments were only supported by the West as a bulwark against Communism in southern Africa. When the Soviet Union dissolved they were no longer needed

Do you believe that all the accusations of mass killings by us enemies were all fabricated? It’s one thing to believe that an intervention was unjustified (which I agree) but it’s another to outright deny human rights abuses because of political leaning

and America will continue to do s*** like that until there are countries that can check them

Man look at whats happening in the SCS or on their Indian border. That country is turning into an aggressive expansionary entity and conflict is pretty much guaranteed

The second China attacks the Kinmen Islands is when things will really start to heat up

Incubator babies? WMDs? The Nayirah testimony?

If they had real evidence they would not have had to lie so brazenly

You're well read enough to know the burden of proof is on the one with the minority opinion.
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But here's some sources. I didn't go through each one but I think it's hard to discredit every one of these, many of which detail treatment of humans as without worth

the burden of proof is actually on someone making a claim

every country in the world has border conflicts, because borders are f***ing stupid. wake me up when China is travelling to different continents to start wars and overthrow elected leaders

YEA... I THINK THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE

WMDs aren’t human rights abuses my negro. I’m talking about the killings of Kurds, suppression of Shias and other things. Like the Soviet and Chinese purges, mass executions etc. Maybe it’s exaggerated but there’s more than just cia sources backing it up. AND PLEASE DONT SAY “but America supported Iraq when it did that” I don’t care about what America did I’m not defending them so it’s irrelevant

also yeah im gonna need more than defector stories when its been proven there is a lot of monetary incentive behind that.

most of these papers youve linked aren't even accessible lol. but i clicked on that hidden gulag one (lol tho at "north korea has prisons!" like ok, lets get some prisoner testimonies from america.)

board of directors is literally full of CIA ops and western think tanks

give me a break.

Even before the Soviets fell they were under worldwide sanctions that began to cripple them. Then for years after it fell it attempted to preserve its system until the weight of the world was too much. If every country hypothetically turned on China (they won’t) then I’m not saying the government would all step down, but they would at least make some concessions to recover

"U.S. Committee for Human Rights in North Korea" lmfao

cool fact is u.s. sponsored the killing of kurds in syria ^_^
then they funded em to sow dissent

theyre just pawns unfortunately

i dont think u cant really not talk about america in this. things dont exist in a vaccuum

United Nations and European Union both consider them dangerous and have placed heavy sactions on them. Independently you have sanctions placed on them from America, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and even China and Russia. They control their media and have internment camps which have been described as violating human rights from many different sources. Kim Jong Un lives like a king while people die of poverty (tbf this happens in most places, however that doesn’t make it a good thing and considering you’re a communist you shouldn’t be such a fan of this). Then of course they have the nuclear program and have had many test launches which makes them dangerous to others (and again, other countries do this as well, which just means other countries are also dangerous, America included).

Make sure to bomb each other, keep the rest out

I read your original question as a claim that NK isn't the danger people think they are, given you looked to be asking in bad faith and looking for a gotcha moment. But regardless, I gave some sources, you're welcome to provide some

So the united nations and european union, aka western capitalist nations, as well as all those other countries you mentioned lol. this isn't telling me anything.

And no one claimed North Korea was a communist utopia. They control their media? pal, every country controls their media. Now tell me why are the people in poverty? could it perhaps be because of the sanctions you mentioned? and im sorry but if america is going to have nukes, and has actually killed 20% of north koreas population, then yeah, maybe they should be looking for ways to defend themselves by all means necessary

Difference between us is I’m not running defense for one government implicated in mass repression

lol yeah sure, and if you have border conflicts with multiple allies, then you know what happens next. Also I wouldn't just consider what's happening "little border conflicts", they're encroaching more and more on the brahmaputra river (a river that over 100M indians depend on to live), they're declaring ownership over pretty much the entirety of the SCS to get complete control of the natural gas resources and they'll attack taiwan pretty soon

a little more than little border disputes my guy

edit: also they're doing a genocide in xinjiang and wont hesitate to do one in tibet too lol

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you can read through it, take what you want from it all

'every country controls their media' no, they don't, not like that. that's why CNN etc were rightfully allowed to go in on Trump every single day of his presidency, speech against the government is illegal there.

my best friend is Kurdish and the situation there is not so clear cut. AFAIK the Iraqi Kurds supported Iran in the Iran-Iraq war which complicates the issue

Like I said, I didn't vet them.
I'm unsure what could convince u, it's a state which does not share information on goings on nor allow people to view anything outside mandated areas. The only information we can get about this is testimonials which you dismiss.