What is this music lol.
This is very David Lynch. Talk about wearing your influences on your sleeve.
And the synopsis literally says “They gotta stop biting these better shows” lol. He’s gotta be talking about Twin Peaks, right?
The main problem is this isn’t funny
yeah thats what i can't get over.
is cannibalism supposed to be funny/excusable just for the shock? this is really f***ed up s*** she was a part of.
Hmmm. I respect it.
But it wasn’t funny, and it wasn’t emotionally resonant. Everything this episode told us about Van, we already knew. Her explanation at the end felt heavy-handed. They went for a Leftovers finale type situation, but without the strong characterization. And it was just too Lynch-lite.
It wanted to provoke, but very little of it feels like it’ll stick with me.
I think the idea is that Van was so lost in herself that reality and sheer gravity of what she was getting herself into never sank in until that moment in the kitchen.
Like it wasn't until her friend summarized everything for her that it hit Van all at once like "wait! wtf am I doing?"
Borderline dissociative.
Great episode
I like the reference to Amélie and central themes of escapism and existential crisis
yeah, last week episode with the black white kid was actually on point
Do you f*** with the premiere? That’s easily my fav. I thought that one was the right kind of provocative. It created expectations that the rest of the show just couldn’t deliver on.
Hmmm. I respect it.
But it wasn’t funny, and it wasn’t emotionally resonant. Everything this episode told us about Van, we already knew. Her explanation at the end felt heavy-handed. They went for a Leftovers finale type situation, but without the strong characterization. And it was just too Lynch-lite.
It wanted to provoke, but very little of it feels like it’ll stick with me.
Do you think the whole hand thing was meant to be funny
The sequence felt more gross and shocking rather than comedic.
Do you think the whole hand thing was meant to be funny
The sequence felt more gross and shocking rather than comedic.
I didn’t take it too serious. It’s surrealism. Whatever. Chalk it up to a dream. It’s like when “2Pac” died. Only that was a much more haunting, impactful piece of imagery. I don’t really know what the writers wanted us to feel with this. I didn’t really feel anything.
This is prolly the first episode I asked myself “what is the point of all this?”
Realistically this would have to take place later in the future. I mean she’s all over magazines, dating famous actors, has connections around the city. Surely all that would take time, a year plus. So we are meant to believe she’s been away from her daughter for over a year running around serving niggas hands?
If this was like some wild stand alone show I could see it being dope (with some tweaks) but with it tied into Atlanta and especially being the finale, I don’t think I like it.
It was highly confusing.
Do you f*** with the premiere? That’s easily my fav. I thought that one was the right kind of provocative. It created expectations that the rest of the show just couldn’t deliver on.
yeah the one with the kids love that episode
This is prolly the first episode I asked myself “what is the point of all this?”
Realistically this would have to take place later in the future. I mean she’s all over magazines, dating famous actors, has connections around the city. Surely all that would take time, a year plus. So we are meant to believe she’s been away from her daughter for over a year running around serving niggas hands?
If this was like some wild stand alone show I could see it being dope (with some tweaks) but with it tied into Atlanta and especially being the finale, I don’t think I like it.
It was highly confusing.
There comes a point with surrealism where it’s almost like a cop out. Like, hold on, I know this show plays fast and loose with reality, but that doesn’t mean you can just do anything and have us buy what’s happening.
all throughout the season we been seein how black folks been gettin pissed on by white society
just to end with a sista pissing on a cracka.
I wanna give all these weirdo ass niggas in the writer's room the biggest dap bro.
This is prolly the first episode I asked myself “what is the point of all this?”
Realistically this would have to take place later in the future. I mean she’s all over magazines, dating famous actors, has connections around the city. Surely all that would take time, a year plus. So we are meant to believe she’s been away from her daughter for over a year running around serving niggas hands?
If this was like some wild stand alone show I could see it being dope (with some tweaks) but with it tied into Atlanta and especially being the finale, I don’t think I like it.
It was highly confusing.
Fans may have expected the finale to focus on Earn, Al and Darius, and Robinson admits she didn’t know this episode would be the season finale while writing it. But it “brings some sort of finality” and “answers these questions that we’ve been having all season,” she believes. “Van is going through what we’re exploring this season, with the idea of being away from home and stepping outside of your comfort zone… This season, we were interrogating: What does it mean to be Black? What does it mean to be American traveling abroad? What does it mean to be a white person in America” during the current racial reckoning? “So I think there is something nice and final about the Van of it all. It’s finally being able to say, ‘I don’t know who I am.’ And: ‘Is that OK?’… In that way, I feel like it sums up the season quite well, I think.”
Seems like they see the final episode as a synopsis of the entire season metaphorically while tying loose ends and addressing the elephant in the room, which has been Van’s character arc.
all throughout the season we been seein how black folks been gettin pissed on by white society
just to end with a sista pissing on a cracka.
I wanna give all these weirdo ass niggas in the writer's room the biggest dap bro.
That wasn’t a cracka. He was like an Indian dude or something.
That wasn’t a cracka. He was like an Indian dude or something.
I swore he looked white
Fans may have expected the finale to focus on Earn, Al and Darius, and Robinson admits she didn’t know this episode would be the season finale while writing it. But it “brings some sort of finality” and “answers these questions that we’ve been having all season,” she believes. “Van is going through what we’re exploring this season, with the idea of being away from home and stepping outside of your comfort zone… This season, we were interrogating: What does it mean to be Black? What does it mean to be American traveling abroad? What does it mean to be a white person in America” during the current racial reckoning? “So I think there is something nice and final about the Van of it all. It’s finally being able to say, ‘I don’t know who I am.’ And: ‘Is that OK?’… In that way, I feel like it sums up the season quite well, I think.”
Seems like they see the final episode as a synopsis of the entire season metaphorically while tying loose ends and addressing the elephant in the room, which has been Van’s character arc.
this makes sense.
Especially cause Zazie is both German and Black too. I'm sure she probably loved her character arc for personal reasons.
(because the original f*** ass Times UK article has a paywall)
Her mixed-race identity has been a source of discomfort over the years. “I struggled with it in terms of not feeling like I’m either identity fully,” she says. She recalls one instance, when she was 11 or 12: “I was a part of this leadership programme for young black girls. We were all in the cafeteria when some song came on, and all the girls started dancing. I was like, what is this? What is this dance? What is the song? It’s a superficial example, but I remember having a really visceral reaction and thinking, ‘Am I not black enough?’ ”