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    hayabusa

    regional traditions from what? i never listened to freddie and thought he sounded like this or that, theres barely even any notable rappers from indiana for you to even imply hes borrowing from said other regions

    dont agree with him saying just whatever either

    Freddie's influences are self evident. He says the labels tried to make him do a fast food Pac flow which he rejected, he talks about slabs and car culture, he talks about dealing coke and was signed to Jeezy. That's without talking about the different looks he approaches albums with from boom bap (Pinata, Alfredo) to trap (ESGN, Shadow of a Doubt). I'd say he's drawing just as much from baritone Texas rappers as double time Chicago acts like Psycho Drama and Do or Die.

    He's very much of the internet age. A post-regional student of the game type.

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    Benny Boy

    Freddie's influences are self evident. He says the labels tried to make him do a fast food Pac flow which he rejected, he talks about slabs and car culture, he talks about dealing coke and was signed to Jeezy. That's without talking about the different looks he approaches albums with from boom bap (Pinata, Alfredo) to trap (ESGN, Shadow of a Doubt). I'd say he's drawing just as much from baritone Texas rappers as double time Chicago acts like Psycho Drama and Do or Die.

    He's very much of the internet age. A post-regional student of the game type.

    The Midwest is tricky. The regional divide there isn't as strong as it is everywhere else, and it's always been more of a sort of "melting pot" of styles. Detroit has its own modern style, which borrows elements from the bay era and part of the South from the cash money bling rap era and no limit. Jeezy has always had heavy, heavy influence in Detroit with BMF and Big Meech. Dilla was a student of Q Tip and blended boom bap with Detroit's Motown soul elements. Meanwhile in Chicago, Common came out the gate with heavy east coast influence, and Ye's stamp was boom bap and soul in the same vein as Dilla. I'd say that Gibbs is doing the same thing that all Midwest artists did, which is being more of a "jack of all trades" than specializing in just one style.

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    Laced

    The Midwest is tricky. The regional divide there isn't as strong as it is everywhere else, and it's always been more of a sort of "melting pot" of styles. Detroit has its own modern style, which borrows elements from the bay era and part of the South from the cash money bling rap era and no limit. Jeezy has always had heavy, heavy influence in Detroit with BMF and Big Meech. Dilla was a student of Q Tip and blended boom bap with Detroit's Motown soul elements. Meanwhile in Chicago, Common came out the gate with heavy east coast influence, and Ye's stamp was boom bap and soul in the same vein as Dilla. I'd say that Gibbs is doing the same thing that all Midwest artists did, which is being more of a "jack of all trades" than specializing in just one style.

    He's not in the lineage of early Kanye, Lupe, Common, and No ID. I named Psycho Drama and Do or Die because that's the best fit I can think of. But none of those artists are talking about slabs and dealing. That's all Texas and the South.

    Gibbs is his own confluence.

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    DraftPiff
    https://twitter.com/NapsseyHussle/status/2028490230437736453

    Really good additions to an already great album.

    Well this is random

  • Mar 2
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    Benny Boy

    He's not in the lineage of early Kanye, Lupe, Common, and No ID. I named Psycho Drama and Do or Die because that's the best fit I can think of. But none of those artists are talking about slabs and dealing. That's all Texas and the South.

    Gibbs is his own confluence.

    Slabs ain't just Texas. Yeah they the most popular spot for them in the culture but u gotta think about where these cars come from, which was the Midwest plants. It's car shows and meets with old schools out there all the time. People used to ride them up and down Belle Isle in Detroit back in the 90s-early 2000s.

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    Laced

    Slabs ain't just Texas. Yeah they the most popular spot for them in the culture but u gotta think about where these cars come from, which was the Midwest plants. It's car shows and meets with old schools out there all the time. People used to ride them up and down Belle Isle in Detroit back in the 90s-early 2000s.

    There a lot of Detroit slab songs from the 90s and early 00s?

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    Benny Boy

    It does. He's a conglomerate of regional traditions which he isn't actually apart of his, he showcases a lot of flashy technique/ability, and a lot of the time what he's saying is kind of whatever.

    His voice, flow, taste in influences and producers is superior though.

    Calling someonone the 'Logic' denotes corniness & even with the social media antics nothing about Freddie's music is corny

    Even the 'J.I.D.' would've been a better name to pick but he's still way better than both

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    1996 BRL

    Calling someonone the 'Logic' denotes corniness & even with the social media antics nothing about Freddie's music is corny

    Even the 'J.I.D.' would've been a better name to pick but he's still way better than both

    J Cole then

  • 1996 BRL ✊🏿
    Mar 2
    Benny Boy

    J Cole then

    I'm legally bound by the Will of the First King of the Walls to not speak in any way that can be considered as hate of J Cole (due to committing to the vow of renouncing one's hate against J Cole)

    Well played Sir, have a blessed day/afternoon/evening/night

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    Benny Boy

    There a lot of Detroit slab songs from the 90s and early 00s?

    Blade Icewood and the Eastside Chedda Boyz rapped about Cadillacs A LOT in their songs. Ties right into Gibbs "Midwestgangstaboxframecadillacmuzik"

  • Mar 2
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    Laced

    Blade Icewood and the Eastside Chedda Boyz rapped about Cadillacs A LOT in their songs. Ties right into Gibbs "Midwestgangstaboxframecadillacmuzik"

    Blade Icewood is on some Streetlordz compilation with Daz and Spice 1, and I'll be spinning that. Appreciated

    But idk man, this is Texas to me

  • Mar 2
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    Benny Boy

    Blade Icewood is on some Streetlordz compilation with Daz and Spice 1, and I'll be spinning that. Appreciated

    But idk man, this is Texas to me

    !https://youtu.be/xZmg95dKwUM

    Definitely. I'm not denying that he has some Texas influence. I'm just speaking as someone that grew up in the Midwest and can see it in Gibbs and how he blends his influences

  • Mar 2
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    Laced

    Definitely. I'm not denying that he has some Texas influence. I'm just speaking as someone that grew up in the Midwest and can see it in Gibbs and how he blends his influences

    That's what my post was? I mentioned Do or Die who the Chicago pimp guys. Psycho Drama as well and he's done a track with one of their members. But like, the Texas stuff is very forward with his slang and deep voice.

    He doesn't have a song titled Trick Trick

  • Mar 2
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    Benny Boy

    That's what my post was? I mentioned Do or Die who the Chicago pimp guys. Psycho Drama as well and he's done a track with one of their members. But like, the Texas stuff is very forward with his slang and deep voice.

    He doesn't have a song titled Trick Trick

    !https://youtu.be/dffuCNKtR3g

    Having a deep voice doesn't automatically mean you're tryna be from Texas man lmao. Midwest niggas use south slang too that's what I've been saying when I brought up how integrated Jeezy was into the Detroit scene. It ain't just music we dress and talk like them too. Look at Chief Keef

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    Laced

    Having a deep voice doesn't automatically mean you're tryna be from Texas man lmao. Midwest niggas use south slang too that's what I've been saying when I brought up how integrated Jeezy was into the Detroit scene. It ain't just music we dress and talk like them too. Look at Chief Keef

    I'm posting songs with screwed vocals talking about endo and doja and slabs and a song that samples Geto Boys and is titled Scarface. That is the context of the slang and voice. You have the context. He is not paying tribute to Detroits Most Wanted

    Which is fine

  • Mar 2
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    Benny Boy

    I'm posting songs with screwed vocals talking about endo and doja and slabs and a song that samples Geto Boys and is titled Scarface. That is the context of the slang and voice. You have the context. He is not paying tribute to Detroits Most Wanted

    Which is fine

    Brother, I literally keep saying that Midwest niggas (not just Gibbs) are influenced by the south INCLUDING Texas and you're just repeating and relinking songs where....he is influenced by the south lmao. We going in circles here

  • Mitch Please

    It’s not, someone ripped the tracks from instagram and they’re on the site

    Honestly can't believe someone ripped it

    Usually when these DSP leaks happen it slips out, no one rips, the end until it releases

  • Mar 2
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    Laced

    Brother, I literally keep saying that Midwest niggas (not just Gibbs) are influenced by the south INCLUDING Texas and you're just repeating and relinking songs where....he is influenced by the south lmao. We going in circles here

    Like I covered in the original post? And you're mentioning guys in Detroit who linked with the West Coast while we're talking about a guy 40 minutes outside Chicago who raps like he's on Rap-a-Lot Records?

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    Benny Boy

    Like I covered in the original post? And you're mentioning guys in Detroit who linked with the West Coast while we're talking about a guy 40 minutes outside Chicago who raps like he's on Rap-a-Lot Records?

    You're original post was about Gibbs being an internet-core Logic type rapper because of his collection of influences and I simply pointed out that the Midwest has always been that way

  • Mar 2
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    Laced

    You're original post was about Gibbs being an internet-core Logic type rapper because of his collection of influences and I simply pointed out that the Midwest has always been that way

    I laid out a few criteria as to why that is the case. And I didn't mention /r/HipHopHeads so I'll go ahead and do that now. He's of the 2010s Reddit royalty crowd right alongside Logic. Refer to the other similarities I pointed out if you want.

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    Benny Boy

    It does. He's a conglomerate of regional traditions which he isn't actually apart of his, he showcases a lot of flashy technique/ability, and a lot of the time what he's saying is kind of whatever.

    His voice, flow, taste in influences and producers is superior though.

    was logic that different from the sound of his region though? also by all those descriptors you can compare gibbs to DOOM or Ritchie from Injury Reserve or Phonte or just about any rapper from a region that does not have a set sound (including chicago because coming up kanye himself talked about there not being any sort of scene aside from common) and it wont sound nearly as crazy so i guess the problem isnt anyones influence or freestyle delivery but your point of reference

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    WRU
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    was logic that different from the sound of his region though? also by all those descriptors you can compare gibbs to DOOM or Ritchie from Injury Reserve or Phonte or just about any rapper from a region that does not have a set sound (including chicago because coming up kanye himself talked about there not being any sort of scene aside from common) and it wont sound nearly as crazy so i guess the problem isnt anyones influence or freestyle delivery but your point of reference

    Logic and Gibbs do have a region. It's called Reddit.com

    When that subreddit had juice at least. Blog era rip

  • Mar 2
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    Benny Boy

    I laid out a few criteria as to why that is the case. And I didn't mention /r/HipHopHeads so I'll go ahead and do that now. He's of the 2010s Reddit royalty crowd right alongside Logic. Refer to the other similarities I pointed out if you want.

    Okay. So it sounds like you're more concerned with how he's being RECEIVED more than his actual sound or influences. Gotcha.

  • Mar 2
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    Benny Boy

    Logic and Gibbs do have a region. It's called Reddit.com

    When that subreddit had juice at least. Blog era rip

    profound!

  • Mar 2
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    WRU

    profound!

    I'm not joking.