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  • Jun 26, 2025
    Bad Finger Boogie

    Most artists sell those, too?

    Needs to be the main importance again

  • Jun 26, 2025
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    Crazy the people had the all power pre-streaming era with genuine free mixtapes and having access to download whatever album u want from a simple google search and we collectively gave away control for “convenience” and it ended up not being that convenient lol

  • Jun 26, 2025
    BMZ

    Crazy the people had the all power pre-streaming era with genuine free mixtapes and having access to download whatever album u want from a simple google search and we collectively gave away control for “convenience” and it ended up not being that convenient lol

    it wasnt a matter of maintaining control but moreso a matter of someone bridging the gap between a new distribution technology (that can be in principle owned by anyone) and shareholders in the music media. lars ulrich kinda predicted all of this

  • Jun 26, 2025
    Mark Moschino

    Burn the music industry down, stop streaming services

  • Jun 26, 2025

    Stop renting music from corporations

    Get an mp3 player

    And start your own library.

  • Jun 26, 2025
    Mark Moschino

    Burn the music industry down, stop streaming services

    It really is that simple. Streaming is the problem.

  • Jun 26, 2025

    Jesus in every thread is Jim Dumbert. At this point it's mental illness

  • Jun 26, 2025
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    A thread about vinyls being unfinished is somehow a streaming issue lol

  • Jun 26, 2025

    vinyl is a scam. sounds like s*** too

  • Jun 26, 2025
    K DOG 99

    A thread about vinyls being unfinished is somehow a streaming issue lol

    ey kinda cause it makes these artists not finish the album till the last minute but they still wanna juice first week sales so they put everything they got so far onto a record and slap it for $40

  • Jun 26, 2025

    i'd be fine with it if they doubled back and sent the full version or offered a swap feature. but yea, it's a nasty numbers boost/money grab

  • Jun 26, 2025

    i cant believe people buy modern vinyls. not even the best quality and chances are they listening on a s***ty soundsystem.

  • Jun 26, 2025
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    hadji
    !https://youtu.be/f2I7hyPG8y4

    today on my channel I looked at what's been going on with these incomplete vinyl shipping out to fans

    lil wayne, the weeknd, beyonce, nicki minaj are all guilty of this to some degree in the past year or two

    Tha Carter VI vinyl has SIX out of 19 of the original tracklist songs on it

    in the video I go through the history of Billboard sales tracking to frame why it is that artists are motivated to do this

    but the question I have for y'all is - how do we stop this from happening in the future?

    my solution would be to change the billboard counting rules—if the vinyl you ship has less than, let's say, 80% of the final tracklist, it shouldn't count as a sale. what do y'all think

    If an artist clearly states that the first pressing version is just that, a first pressing, then I’m not too mad at the gimmick.

    It’s when they don’t do that (Nicki, Wayne, and Future) that it becomes a problem.

    I would say Billboard should start penalizing this, but after their ridiculous shipping rule change it kind of gives artists no other avenues to have pure sales available first week, unless they finish the album months before the release date to press copies.

    This can be challenging though, due to the higher likelihood of leaks as well as the problem of vinyl manufacturing plants being backed up for months when a huge artist has hundreds of thousands of copies being pressed at a single time.

    Billboard should just make it so where at least 75% of the actual album has to be on these first pressing copies or else the sales won’t count. That seems like a reasonable number for both the artist and the fans.

    It should also be a rule that first pressing copies must be at a reduced price in comparison to the full version of the album. Maybe like 25% off of the price of the full version

  • Jun 26, 2025

    Streaming is dead so artists gotta scam their fans with s***ty vinyl to boost the first week numbers

  • Jun 26, 2025
    BMZ

    Crazy the people had the all power pre-streaming era with genuine free mixtapes and having access to download whatever album u want from a simple google search and we collectively gave away control for “convenience” and it ended up not being that convenient lol

    Same s*** for video games

    Consumers will give up their power for convenience and in the end, it’s gonna bite them in the ass cus the only option for consuming media will be streaming and they’ll charge you double the price for half the quality

  • Jun 26, 2025

    music industry is shameless

    also this s*** should not count as a sale

  • Jun 26, 2025

    6 tracks out of 19!?
    Buying C6 on vinyl is an L in itself. Deserved

  • Jun 26, 2025
    TheFader

    If an artist clearly states that the first pressing version is just that, a first pressing, then I’m not too mad at the gimmick.

    It’s when they don’t do that (Nicki, Wayne, and Future) that it becomes a problem.

    I would say Billboard should start penalizing this, but after their ridiculous shipping rule change it kind of gives artists no other avenues to have pure sales available first week, unless they finish the album months before the release date to press copies.

    This can be challenging though, due to the higher likelihood of leaks as well as the problem of vinyl manufacturing plants being backed up for months when a huge artist has hundreds of thousands of copies being pressed at a single time.

    Billboard should just make it so where at least 75% of the actual album has to be on these first pressing copies or else the sales won’t count. That seems like a reasonable number for both the artist and the fans.

    It should also be a rule that first pressing copies must be at a reduced price in comparison to the full version of the album. Maybe like 25% off of the price of the full version

    Haha that ends up being almost exactly what I said at the end of the video too - I was thinking like 80% but 75% works too

    I think the issue is they don't say what a first pressing version is. you and I on KTT know what that is but a lot of these consumers have no idea and that's what comes off as fraudulent to me

    also first pressing of Utopia is missing one song, first pressing of Tha Carter VI is missing 13. so it's still so unpredictable for the consumer if they're going to get ripped off or not

    it would be nice for them to be specific about the number of tracks on the product at least

  • Jun 28, 2025
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    @op Open Mike Eagle shoutout @ 2:35

  • Gosh 😹
    Jun 28, 2025
    smackdab
    !https://youtu.be/trMq1OQNE0o?si=VE35cWKy7w9zQNA

    @op Open Mike Eagle shoutout @ 2:35

    Thats hard

  • Jun 29, 2025
    smackdab
    !https://youtu.be/trMq1OQNE0o?si=VE35cWKy7w9zQNA

    @op Open Mike Eagle shoutout @ 2:35

    crazy man this s*** made my day

  • HBDUSA 🇺🇸
    Jul 1, 2025

    Saw the video going viral of Lorde’s cd not working

  • Jul 1, 2025

    Just bought another copy of C6

  • Jul 1, 2025

    Music industry in collapse bro lol

    All this s*** is a giant scam @op

    Raising my future kids type African (“stem or bust”) cause this artsy s*** is not it my nigga the CIA won after all.

  • Jul 1, 2025
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    Clipse vinyl will apparently be missing multiple tracks lol everybody doing this s***