Crazy the people had the all power pre-streaming era with genuine free mixtapes and having access to download whatever album u want from a simple google search and we collectively gave away control for “convenience” and it ended up not being that convenient lol
Crazy the people had the all power pre-streaming era with genuine free mixtapes and having access to download whatever album u want from a simple google search and we collectively gave away control for “convenience” and it ended up not being that convenient lol
it wasnt a matter of maintaining control but moreso a matter of someone bridging the gap between a new distribution technology (that can be in principle owned by anyone) and shareholders in the music media. lars ulrich kinda predicted all of this
Burn the music industry down, stop streaming services
It really is that simple. Streaming is the problem.
A thread about vinyls being unfinished is somehow a streaming issue lol
ey kinda cause it makes these artists not finish the album till the last minute but they still wanna juice first week sales so they put everything they got so far onto a record and slap it for $40
i'd be fine with it if they doubled back and sent the full version or offered a swap feature. but yea, it's a nasty numbers boost/money grab
i cant believe people buy modern vinyls. not even the best quality and chances are they listening on a s***ty soundsystem.
today on my channel I looked at what's been going on with these incomplete vinyl shipping out to fans
lil wayne, the weeknd, beyonce, nicki minaj are all guilty of this to some degree in the past year or two
Tha Carter VI vinyl has SIX out of 19 of the original tracklist songs on it
in the video I go through the history of Billboard sales tracking to frame why it is that artists are motivated to do this
but the question I have for y'all is - how do we stop this from happening in the future?
my solution would be to change the billboard counting rules—if the vinyl you ship has less than, let's say, 80% of the final tracklist, it shouldn't count as a sale. what do y'all think
If an artist clearly states that the first pressing version is just that, a first pressing, then I’m not too mad at the gimmick.
It’s when they don’t do that (Nicki, Wayne, and Future) that it becomes a problem.
I would say Billboard should start penalizing this, but after their ridiculous shipping rule change it kind of gives artists no other avenues to have pure sales available first week, unless they finish the album months before the release date to press copies.
This can be challenging though, due to the higher likelihood of leaks as well as the problem of vinyl manufacturing plants being backed up for months when a huge artist has hundreds of thousands of copies being pressed at a single time.
Billboard should just make it so where at least 75% of the actual album has to be on these first pressing copies or else the sales won’t count. That seems like a reasonable number for both the artist and the fans.
It should also be a rule that first pressing copies must be at a reduced price in comparison to the full version of the album. Maybe like 25% off of the price of the full version
Streaming is dead so artists gotta scam their fans with s***ty vinyl to boost the first week numbers
Crazy the people had the all power pre-streaming era with genuine free mixtapes and having access to download whatever album u want from a simple google search and we collectively gave away control for “convenience” and it ended up not being that convenient lol
Same s*** for video games
Consumers will give up their power for convenience and in the end, it’s gonna bite them in the ass cus the only option for consuming media will be streaming and they’ll charge you double the price for half the quality
If an artist clearly states that the first pressing version is just that, a first pressing, then I’m not too mad at the gimmick.
It’s when they don’t do that (Nicki, Wayne, and Future) that it becomes a problem.
I would say Billboard should start penalizing this, but after their ridiculous shipping rule change it kind of gives artists no other avenues to have pure sales available first week, unless they finish the album months before the release date to press copies.
This can be challenging though, due to the higher likelihood of leaks as well as the problem of vinyl manufacturing plants being backed up for months when a huge artist has hundreds of thousands of copies being pressed at a single time.
Billboard should just make it so where at least 75% of the actual album has to be on these first pressing copies or else the sales won’t count. That seems like a reasonable number for both the artist and the fans.
It should also be a rule that first pressing copies must be at a reduced price in comparison to the full version of the album. Maybe like 25% off of the price of the full version
Haha that ends up being almost exactly what I said at the end of the video too - I was thinking like 80% but 75% works too
I think the issue is they don't say what a first pressing version is. you and I on KTT know what that is but a lot of these consumers have no idea and that's what comes off as fraudulent to me
also first pressing of Utopia is missing one song, first pressing of Tha Carter VI is missing 13. so it's still so unpredictable for the consumer if they're going to get ripped off or not
it would be nice for them to be specific about the number of tracks on the product at least
@op Open Mike Eagle shoutout @ 2:35
Thats hard
@op Open Mike Eagle shoutout @ 2:35
crazy man this s*** made my day
Saw the video going viral of Lorde’s cd not working
Music industry in collapse bro lol
All this s*** is a giant scam @op
Raising my future kids type African (“stem or bust”) cause this artsy s*** is not it my nigga the CIA won after all.