Aug 11, 2020·1 reply
OdeonSuccess with your thread. To think I wanted to help you and add to the dicussion. If you don't even want me here than I guess I'm out
I don't think anyone ITT is actually truly angry with you,
It's just a lot of your points seem to contradict ITT,
Like you said, its just the internet,
But we as people should always be learning and listening to what others may say and you have the right 2 share your opinions, its just other people have the right to disagree, maybe if every single person albeit maybe one is disagreeing, its time to a***yze where the points of disagreement are
- Aug 11, 2020·1 reply
not ezrano effective activism has ever taken place online guys :( the #metoo movement didn't actually bring about greater awareness on sexual assault in hollywood, despite being misguided at times. blm didn't originate as a twitter movement before the protests and demand for legislation change. the egyptian revolution/arab spring weren't planned and broadcasted online making it reach far more screens than it would've if online activists hadn't gotten so invested. too bad :( internet is useless echo chamber none of us are capable of real change
@Odeon no offense but i think you are rworded
we being ableist now in the feminism thread?
rworded
- Aug 11, 2020·1 replyOdeon
what did I say about those women?
you deadass said you had more experience with feminism than anybody itt where if you are in fact male, no the hell you dont lmao
- Aug 11, 2020·1 replyspongebob
you deadass said you had more experience with feminism than anybody itt where if you are in fact male, no the hell you dont lmao
I was wrong!
- Aug 11, 2020·editedspongebob
I don't think anyone ITT is actually truly angry with you,
It's just a lot of your points seem to contradict ITT,
Like you said, its just the internet,
But we as people should always be learning and listening to what others may say and you have the right 2 share your opinions, its just other people have the right to disagree, maybe if every single person albeit maybe one is disagreeing, its time to a***yze where the points of disagreement are
if you wanna talk more than pm! I'm always down to discuss with anyone who is willing to listen and talk
- Aug 11, 2020·1 replyOdeon
I was wrong!
thats a start, once again i mean we're just talking
but in a lot of cases of oppression some people got to live this s*** every single minute of the day, whereas as males we realistically don't have to be confronted with sexist oppression as often because we occupy the privileged status in that case
- OPAug 11, 2020·1 reply
MulderI have a mixed opinion on p***. I see where anti p*** feminists are coming from.
like most criticisms of well-loved things, the anti-porn movement has valid points but unrealistic expectations for the outcome. like, i'm aware that no governing body will ever "outlaw p***" entirely because men have power and men like p***.
i'm not completely sold on the idea that independent adult content creators are somehow being exploited but i do believe commercial p*** and the "industry" are awful for p*** actresses and women in general. even if you don't buy into the s***negative feminist talking points about how consuming p*** reinforces males desire to violate women and this is why p*** = hurtful to the average woman, tons of ex-porn actresses have railed against the p*** industry for predatory behavior of new actresses (discussed heavily in the doc "hot girls wanted") and dismissal of sexual abuse allegations against their own (see the stoya and james deen situation for example.)
- Aug 11, 2020·1 replyspongebob thats a start,
once again i mean we're just talking
but in a lot of cases of oppression some people got to live this s*** every single minute of the day, whereas as males we realistically don't have to be confronted with sexist oppression as often because we occupy the privileged status in that case
bro im always trying to learn (I'm trying to become the best me!) and help people learn. maybe for me it's just that I think of the internet as more of a learning ground.
I don't think you can convince anyone online but I do think I might be adding to some lives, just being there and giving the other side of the argument if you know what I mean. It's one love!
- OPAug 11, 2020·1 replyOdeon
Success with your thread. To think I wanted to help you and add to the dicussion. If you don't even want me here than I guess I'm out
get over it scrote ur presence isn't needed here. all you've done is dismiss other people's points and tout your credentials lol
- Aug 11, 2020·edited·1 replyOdeon
bro im always trying to learn (I'm trying to become the best me!) and help people learn. maybe for me it's just that I think of the internet as more of a learning ground.
I don't think you can convince anyone online but I do think I might be adding to some lives, just being there and giving the other side of the argument if you know what I mean. It's one love!
Yo people for real have recommended me books and all different types of things on KTT, you can find out what you really believe when you're in the conversation but don't get too big-headed because thats where it goes wrong
gotta have some humility
- OPAug 11, 2020·1 replyspongebob
we being ableist now in the feminism thread?
rworded
yeah i shouldn't have said that i'm just heated and not being considerate
i think twitter would say i'm allowed to reclaim the word tho this would not be the appropriate time to do so
- Aug 11, 2020·1 replyspongebob
Yo people for real have recommended me books and all different types of things on KTT, you can find out what you really believe when you're in the conversation but don't get too big-headed because thats where it goes wrong
gotta have some humility
you're f***ing right! I sometimes forget my humility bro. tbh everyone forgets that sometimes. I hate being a hypocrite, so when I catch myself I always try to stop immediately. and whenever I catch someone being a hypocrite, Idk it just makes me lose respect. some people can't ever learn, their loss. I'm tryna be the best me!
- Aug 11, 2020·edited·1 replynot ezra
yeah i shouldn't have said that i'm just heated and not being considerate
i think twitter would say i'm allowed to reclaim the word tho this would not be the appropriate time to do so
It's weird because its like the most aggressive word to call someone who's being unintelligent but it needs alternatives that don't discriminate against people who have historically been treated unfairly
u saying u on the spectrum? which is fine of course
- Aug 11, 2020·2 repliesnot ezra
get over it scrote ur presence isn't needed here. all you've done is dismiss other people's points and tout your credentials lol
in my defence, didn't everyone else do the same itt tho lol
- Aug 11, 2020Odeon
you're f***ing right! I sometimes forget my humility bro. tbh everyone forgets that sometimes. I hate being a hypocrite, so when I catch myself I always try to stop immediately. and whenever I catch someone being a hypocrite, Idk it just makes me lose respect. some people can't ever learn, their loss. I'm tryna be the best me!
just remember representation isn't the be-all-end-all to oppression of those representing, but it helps
it's important, but it doesn't mean that the structure in which they're operating isn't still problematic
power structures themselves are mostly created to dominate others and thats one of the better ideas within socialism/communism is: more accountability between people deemed as equals, who are actually relevant to the place in which they're holding each other accountable in, imo
- Aug 11, 2020·1 replyOdeon
in my defence, didn't everyone else do the same itt tho lol
don't start this s*** up again 
- Aug 11, 2020not ezra
like most criticisms of well-loved things, the anti-porn movement has valid points but unrealistic expectations for the outcome. like, i'm aware that no governing body will ever "outlaw p***" entirely because men have power and men like p***.
i'm not completely sold on the idea that independent adult content creators are somehow being exploited but i do believe commercial p*** and the "industry" are awful for p*** actresses and women in general. even if you don't buy into the s***negative feminist talking points about how consuming p*** reinforces males desire to violate women and this is why p*** = hurtful to the average woman, tons of ex-porn actresses have railed against the p*** industry for predatory behavior of new actresses (discussed heavily in the doc "hot girls wanted") and dismissal of sexual abuse allegations against their own (see the stoya and james deen situation for example.)
Yeah it's a slippery slope...
I should probably read more critiques and opposing arguments.
- Aug 11, 2020not ezra
no effective activism has ever taken place online guys :( the #metoo movement didn't actually bring about greater awareness on sexual assault in hollywood, despite being misguided at times. blm didn't originate as a twitter movement before the protests and demand for legislation change. the egyptian revolution/arab spring weren't planned and broadcasted online making it reach far more screens than it would've if online activists hadn't gotten so invested. too bad :( internet is useless echo chamber none of us are capable of real change
@Odeon no offense but i think you are rworded
"rworded"
do you think you're cool saying that?
- Aug 11, 2020spongebob don't start this s*** up again
- Aug 11, 2020·1 reply
people of my family actually suffer of the s*** yall are making jokes about
plants 🌻Aug 11, 2020·1 replyOdeonpeople of my family actually suffer of the s*** yall are making jokes about
And we all suffer under capitalism
- OPAug 11, 2020·2 repliesspongebob
It's weird because its like the most aggressive word to call someone who's being unintelligent but it needs alternatives that don't discriminate against people who have historically been treated unfairly
u saying u on the spectrum? which is fine of course
definitely every alternative i can think of is dismissive of s*** treatment people with autism and intellectual disabilities still deal with today. not that it's an excuse for using it so egregiously but i think the reason i use the word to refer to ppl who are upsetting me due to their ignorance is bc i was called it during similarly tense arguements.
i'm both on the spectrum and have a recent traumatic brain injury lol
- Aug 11, 2020·3 repliesplants
And we all suffer under capitalism
my gf's family lost lives under communism.
- Aug 11, 2020not ezra
definitely every alternative i can think of is dismissive of s*** treatment people with autism and intellectual disabilities still deal with today. not that it's an excuse for using it so egregiously but i think the reason i use the word to refer to ppl who are upsetting me due to their ignorance is bc i was called it during similarly tense arguements.
i'm both on the spectrum and have a recent traumatic brain injury lol
you gone get through it and be okay - OPAug 11, 2020·1 replyOdeon
in my defence, didn't everyone else do the same itt tho lol
did everyone else say "i have more experience than yall because i went to some protests?" no they didn't...