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  • rvi 🦜
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    listening to neutral milk hotel for the first time in forever

    actually kind of overwhelmingly because im thinking about all memories associated with it reminds me trippin balls on shrooms

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    @Aruji i was playing random songs with my friend in the car and I put on Nick of Time by Stabscotch. He described his take on it as "extreme slam poetry"

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    @Aruji i was playing random songs with my friend in the car and I put on Nick of Time by Stabscotch. He described his take on it as "extreme slam poetry"

    i read this at first thinking aruji was playing songs with your friend in the car and i was like wtf

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    Galaxy de list mon

    @Aruji i was playing random songs with my friend in the car and I put on Nick of Time by Stabscotch. He described his take on it as "extreme slam poetry"

    yea I recently played it to a friend of mine too and all the other persons left the room. He, however, listened to it in one entire sitting. Quite an amazing experience because his speakers were good.

    But yea, "extreme slam poetry" fits in somehow. I really like Blensdorf's lyrics at times.

  • Jul 21, 2020

    RIP Michael Brooks

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    Does anyone know why Actress titled his new album 88? It literally means "Hail Hitler" (H is the 8th letter of the alphabet.). Is there some subversive meaning behind it or a reading I just don't get?

  • Jul 21, 2020
    Aruji

    Does anyone know why Actress titled his new album 88? It literally means "Hail Hitler" (H is the 8th letter of the alphabet.). Is there some subversive meaning behind it or a reading I just don't get?

    Oh wow, didn't know that.

    Maybe it could be that the next one is coming out 88 days after? :mystery:

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    Aruji

    Yorgos makes great movies. The Lobster in particular.

    I like the Favourite and KOASD a bit better just cause they weren't quite as confounding. Can I get an Aruji the Wise summation of The Lobster please.

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    Elric

    I like the Favourite and KOASD a bit better just cause they weren't quite as confounding. Can I get an Aruji the Wise summation of The Lobster please.

    It's surrealism is similar to Bunuel if that might help you

    On a surface level it satirizes the societal pressure that comes with being in a relationship or being a single. Without having a partner you're not fulfilling the needs of the society and basically worthless. In the film you get transformed to your an animal, which is below humans and you get treated as a person with no respect and status (remember the animal being killed in the first scene). It's not that you are being viciously killed but rather excommunicated.

    The other countersociety surrounding the singles collects exactly under that identifying factor of being a single, which gives gives you the freedom to live freely without the fear of being transformed into an animal yet being killed if you betray their foundational identifying factor.

    this reading says that both don't work and eventually kill you.

    that is the superficial reading. There is also some critique of modern dating behavior and how market rules and a competitive capitalist system have completely worked their way into such a private field (love being reduced to supply and demand like products via dating apps for example). In the house of the first part you'll even get masturbation as a service just to keep you on track. It's highly restrictive in it's way of it's overly systematic and technocratic structure. All the romance and organic quality of finding love is controlled and lost. This however transcends beyond the mere relationship level to other fields of life. Using such a private field highlights the absurdity of such a system

    The counter society is more similar to a communist or anarchist society (it's a bit blurry here.) that built itself as an antithesis to the ruling hypercapitalist system. You might gain freedoms but live in way poorer material conditions and if you betray the rule they've built themselves on you are also excommunicated or killed (similar to maoist and stalinist behaviors). Capitalism just doesn't kill you directly. So it can be extremely difficult to succed in life in both societies. Therefore you get blinded or blind yourself to simply escape as a symbolic act and ignore the troubles.

    The ending is bittersweet because they've at least found some sort of joy. There is a strong advocation for love and humanism that might appear a little silly on it's own but because the entire film is filmed in such a detached manner it becomes the almost utopian goal of the characters.

    At least that's my reading.

  • Jul 21, 2020
    Aruji

    It's surrealism is similar to Bunuel if that might help you

    On a surface level it satirizes the societal pressure that comes with being in a relationship or being a single. Without having a partner you're not fulfilling the needs of the society and basically worthless. In the film you get transformed to your an animal, which is below humans and you get treated as a person with no respect and status (remember the animal being killed in the first scene). It's not that you are being viciously killed but rather excommunicated.

    The other countersociety surrounding the singles collects exactly under that identifying factor of being a single, which gives gives you the freedom to live freely without the fear of being transformed into an animal yet being killed if you betray their foundational identifying factor.

    this reading says that both don't work and eventually kill you.

    that is the superficial reading. There is also some critique of modern dating behavior and how market rules and a competitive capitalist system have completely worked their way into such a private field (love being reduced to supply and demand like products via dating apps for example). In the house of the first part you'll even get masturbation as a service just to keep you on track. It's highly restrictive in it's way of it's overly systematic and technocratic structure. All the romance and organic quality of finding love is controlled and lost. This however transcends beyond the mere relationship level to other fields of life. Using such a private field highlights the absurdity of such a system

    The counter society is more similar to a communist or anarchist society (it's a bit blurry here.) that built itself as an antithesis to the ruling hypercapitalist system. You might gain freedoms but live in way poorer material conditions and if you betray the rule they've built themselves on you are also excommunicated or killed (similar to maoist and stalinist behaviors). Capitalism just doesn't kill you directly. So it can be extremely difficult to succed in life in both societies. Therefore you get blinded or blind yourself to simply escape as a symbolic act and ignore the troubles.

    The ending is bittersweet because they've at least found some sort of joy. There is a strong advocation for love and humanism that might appear a little silly on it's own but because the entire film is filmed in such a detached manner it becomes the almost utopian goal of the characters.

    At least that's my reading.

    I had definitely decided it was Bunuel influenced by the end first watch was on a flight to Europe and I was snoozing half the time

  • Jul 21, 2020
    Aruji

    It's surrealism is similar to Bunuel if that might help you

    On a surface level it satirizes the societal pressure that comes with being in a relationship or being a single. Without having a partner you're not fulfilling the needs of the society and basically worthless. In the film you get transformed to your an animal, which is below humans and you get treated as a person with no respect and status (remember the animal being killed in the first scene). It's not that you are being viciously killed but rather excommunicated.

    The other countersociety surrounding the singles collects exactly under that identifying factor of being a single, which gives gives you the freedom to live freely without the fear of being transformed into an animal yet being killed if you betray their foundational identifying factor.

    this reading says that both don't work and eventually kill you.

    that is the superficial reading. There is also some critique of modern dating behavior and how market rules and a competitive capitalist system have completely worked their way into such a private field (love being reduced to supply and demand like products via dating apps for example). In the house of the first part you'll even get masturbation as a service just to keep you on track. It's highly restrictive in it's way of it's overly systematic and technocratic structure. All the romance and organic quality of finding love is controlled and lost. This however transcends beyond the mere relationship level to other fields of life. Using such a private field highlights the absurdity of such a system

    The counter society is more similar to a communist or anarchist society (it's a bit blurry here.) that built itself as an antithesis to the ruling hypercapitalist system. You might gain freedoms but live in way poorer material conditions and if you betray the rule they've built themselves on you are also excommunicated or killed (similar to maoist and stalinist behaviors). Capitalism just doesn't kill you directly. So it can be extremely difficult to succed in life in both societies. Therefore you get blinded or blind yourself to simply escape as a symbolic act and ignore the troubles.

    The ending is bittersweet because they've at least found some sort of joy. There is a strong advocation for love and humanism that might appear a little silly on it's own but because the entire film is filmed in such a detached manner it becomes the almost utopian goal of the characters.

    At least that's my reading.

    Yeah I picked up that the first half but needed a little clarity on the second interesting

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    I thought Colin Farrell was a joke when he first came out but he's ended up being prettttey good. Made some nice choices.

  • Jul 21, 2020

    I really like the first two third of Killing of a sacred deer. Imo his strongest work but the ending falls flat to me because itcdrags and drags. He sort of loses the atmosphere there by highlighting the inhuman treatment so much he resorts to torture scene stereotypes too much.

    The Favorite has amazing visuals and a great story, editing. I reallly like that one too. Probably my second fav but I have to watch Alps and the ones he did before.

  • OP
    Jul 21, 2020
    Aruji

    It's surrealism is similar to Bunuel if that might help you

    On a surface level it satirizes the societal pressure that comes with being in a relationship or being a single. Without having a partner you're not fulfilling the needs of the society and basically worthless. In the film you get transformed to your an animal, which is below humans and you get treated as a person with no respect and status (remember the animal being killed in the first scene). It's not that you are being viciously killed but rather excommunicated.

    The other countersociety surrounding the singles collects exactly under that identifying factor of being a single, which gives gives you the freedom to live freely without the fear of being transformed into an animal yet being killed if you betray their foundational identifying factor.

    this reading says that both don't work and eventually kill you.

    that is the superficial reading. There is also some critique of modern dating behavior and how market rules and a competitive capitalist system have completely worked their way into such a private field (love being reduced to supply and demand like products via dating apps for example). In the house of the first part you'll even get masturbation as a service just to keep you on track. It's highly restrictive in it's way of it's overly systematic and technocratic structure. All the romance and organic quality of finding love is controlled and lost. This however transcends beyond the mere relationship level to other fields of life. Using such a private field highlights the absurdity of such a system

    The counter society is more similar to a communist or anarchist society (it's a bit blurry here.) that built itself as an antithesis to the ruling hypercapitalist system. You might gain freedoms but live in way poorer material conditions and if you betray the rule they've built themselves on you are also excommunicated or killed (similar to maoist and stalinist behaviors). Capitalism just doesn't kill you directly. So it can be extremely difficult to succed in life in both societies. Therefore you get blinded or blind yourself to simply escape as a symbolic act and ignore the troubles.

    The ending is bittersweet because they've at least found some sort of joy. There is a strong advocation for love and humanism that might appear a little silly on it's own but because the entire film is filmed in such a detached manner it becomes the almost utopian goal of the characters.

    At least that's my reading.

    very nice write-up

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    don't know if I have ever actually liked Colin Farrell that much in anything

    It seems usually either the movie he is in is great but he is just fine (Minority Report, The New World, Miami Vice) or he himself is rly good-great but the movie is trash or mid (Yorgos films, McDonagh films, True Detective, etc.)

    Probably why I have never rly got into the hype train with him

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    Aruji

    Does anyone know why Actress titled his new album 88? It literally means "Hail Hitler" (H is the 8th letter of the alphabet.). Is there some subversive meaning behind it or a reading I just don't get?

    maybe just a reference to 1988 i guess. birth year ?

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    rvi

    maybe just a reference to 1988 i guess. birth year ?

    thought the same at first but he was born in 89. Don't think he is a Nazi or anything close.

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    ThuggerBaby

    don't know if I have ever actually liked Colin Farrell that much in anything

    It seems usually either the movie he is in is great but he is just fine (Minority Report, The New World, Miami Vice) or he himself is rly good-great but the movie is trash or mid (Yorgos films, McDonagh films, True Detective, etc.)

    Probably why I have never rly got into the hype train with him

    lmfao this isn’t a jab cuz you know i love all y’all, but man your taste has so little consistency that i have a hard time believing you actually feel the way you claim to about certain things.

    like how you gon call True Detective, every Yorgos film, and every Mcdonagh film trash?

  • OP
    Jul 21, 2020
    Aruji

    thought the same at first but he was born in 89. Don't think he is a Nazi or anything close.

    year of conception?

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    UIP

    lmfao this isn’t a jab cuz you know i love all y’all, but man your taste has so little consistency that i have a hard time believing you actually feel the way you claim to about certain things.

    like how you gon call True Detective, every Yorgos film, and every Mcdonagh film trash?

    True Detective s2 was def trash lol

    Every Yorgos film mid or trash

    and Seven Psychopaths and In Bruges is aight, but Three Billboards one of the worst films I seen in a while

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    ThuggerBaby

    True Detective s2 was def trash lol

    Every Yorgos film mid or trash

    and Seven Psychopaths and In Bruges is aight, but Three Billboards one of the worst films I seen in a while

    oh yeah s2 of TD wasn’t good, but you ain’t like the first one at least? thought everybody involved SLAYED that s***

    and damn bro i like Three Billboards

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    UIP

    oh yeah s2 of TD wasn’t good, but you ain’t like the first one at least? thought everybody involved SLAYED that s***

    and damn bro i like Three Billboards

    nah I loved s1. I meant for Colin since he was in s2 lol. Colin himself was really great in s2 as well, but the actual season was bad

    McConaughey and Woody were god lvl in that.

    and nah bruh I can't with 3 Billboards. The racist cop forgiveness arc is just so cringe

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    ThuggerBaby

    True Detective s2 was def trash lol

    Every Yorgos film mid or trash

    and Seven Psychopaths and In Bruges is aight, but Three Billboards one of the worst films I seen in a while

    i was gonna say In Bruges is a good film he was great in

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    UIP

    lmfao this isn’t a jab cuz you know i love all y’all, but man your taste has so little consistency that i have a hard time believing you actually feel the way you claim to about certain things.

    like how you gon call True Detective, every Yorgos film, and every Mcdonagh film trash?

  • OP
    Jul 21, 2020
    ThuggerBaby

    nah I loved s1. I meant for Colin since he was in s2 lol. Colin himself was really great in s2 as well, but the actual season was bad

    McConaughey and Woody were god lvl in that.

    and nah bruh I can't with 3 Billboards. The racist cop forgiveness arc is just so cringe

    oh lol i forgot we were even talking about Colin and i’m not sure “forgiveness” was the point of that lil arc, but i get what you’re saying.