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  • Apr 17
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    risecrashing

    She's essentially just Kanye with how stupid & ridiculous her views are but he gets a pass for being a dude and being more of a circus act I guess

    He didn't really get a pass lol just got banned from performing in England and France. Still has alot of fans because he's still dropping some pretty good music.

    MIA hasn't really been doing much.

  • Elric

    He didn't really get a pass lol just got banned from performing in England and France. Still has alot of fans because he's still dropping some pretty good music.

    MIA hasn't really been doing much.

    Yeah but being dropped/banned is still huge PR. She wouldn't even be touched by those festivals to begin with. But yeah he's definitely more of a cultural presence than her by far, she never really crossed over.

  • Apr 17
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    risecrashing

    She's essentially just Kanye with how stupid & ridiculous her views are but he gets a pass for being a dude and being more of a circus act I guess

    I would say Ye's critical acclaim from 04-18, success, popularity, global scale, fashion etc etc all kinda made it harder for many people to accept that he was losing his marbles year by year. MIA acclaim and global impact wasn't as large. Although MAYA and Matangi have rightfully been re-acclaimed, they weren't successful with critics and she pretty much went off the radar with the general public post-"Bad Girls". And although she's had some questionable opinions, nothing anywhere close to the scale of Ye's countless Twitter meltdowns and rants.

  • Apr 17
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    Galaxy de list mon

    I would say Ye's critical acclaim from 04-18, success, popularity, global scale, fashion etc etc all kinda made it harder for many people to accept that he was losing his marbles year by year. MIA acclaim and global impact wasn't as large. Although MAYA and Matangi have rightfully been re-acclaimed, they weren't successful with critics and she pretty much went off the radar with the general public post-"Bad Girls". And although she's had some questionable opinions, nothing anywhere close to the scale of Ye's countless Twitter meltdowns and rants.

    Yep totally different levels of fame. But Kanye went full Nazi (lol) and has people popping off cause he's getting banned and s***. All of it's ridiculous. Not saying she doesn't deserve her s*** either she's a dumbass. Kanye defense brigade are absolute clowns though.

  • Apr 17
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    risecrashing

    Yep totally different levels of fame. But Kanye went full Nazi (lol) and has people popping off cause he's getting banned and s***. All of it's ridiculous. Not saying she doesn't deserve her s*** either she's a dumbass. Kanye defense brigade are absolute clowns though.

    The 'new' era of Ye fans are absolutely the worst fanbase in modern music. I understand many just want good music but the amount of vitriol from Ye fans on Twitter I've seen aimed at groups/people opposing/criticizing all the BS he's done is awful.
    It's good that he's trying to make amends but the fans are pricks about it. They think one Wall Street journal is supposed to fix everything

  • rvi 🦜
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    realized River from vultures 2 is actually great

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    @Aruji thoughts on JIK being Ye's most depressing album ? i know it has alot of 'uplifting' music but imo the man behind the music sounds broken, depressed and manic throughout using religion to try to hold himself together.
    On 'God Is' , the lyric "Jesus saved me , now I'm sane" kinda exemplifies this struggle within himself really well. Plus the music is just really beautiful throughout.

    It is extremely flawed with some pretty surface level religious mumbo jumbo lyrics, I do think it's a bit over-hated overall . I might put it on DONDA level which I think obviously has higher highs but way too much filler and guest features (2021 Kanye imo is not good enough to make 120 minutes of great music).

  • rvi

    realized River from vultures 2 is actually great

    Best song on there iirc but i only listened twice lol didn't like that joint at all

    Oh and SLIDE is pretty cool

  • Galaxy de list mon

    The 'new' era of Ye fans are absolutely the worst fanbase in modern music. I understand many just want good music but the amount of vitriol from Ye fans on Twitter I've seen aimed at groups/people opposing/criticizing all the BS he's done is awful.
    It's good that he's trying to make amends but the fans are pricks about it. They think one Wall Street journal is supposed to fix everything

    He said sorry though so it's all fine

  • Apr 17
    Galaxy de list mon

    @Aruji thoughts on JIK being Ye's most depressing album ? i know it has alot of 'uplifting' music but imo the man behind the music sounds broken, depressed and manic throughout using religion to try to hold himself together.
    On 'God Is' , the lyric "Jesus saved me , now I'm sane" kinda exemplifies this struggle within himself really well. Plus the music is just really beautiful throughout.

    It is extremely flawed with some pretty surface level religious mumbo jumbo lyrics, I do think it's a bit over-hated overall . I might put it on DONDA level which I think obviously has higher highs but way too much filler and guest features (2021 Kanye imo is not good enough to make 120 minutes of great music).

    Ye easily

  • Apr 17
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    Kanye is just too much of a ranting bipolar dumbass for me to enjoy the music honestly, even if the production slaps

    Maybe I've just been around and dated too many bipolar girls for me to find it appealing. It's like PTSD

  • Apr 17
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    rvi

    realized River from vultures 2 is actually great

    We had a listening party for that and it was me and like 6 or 7 girls. I'll never forget the audible groans when Husbands came on

    But they all lost their s*** when River came on cause I guess I was the only one that didnt know the song be sampled for it. It's great. Slide and Fried hit that dystopiYe spot for me too ngl.

  • Apr 17
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    risecrashing

    Kanye is just too much of a ranting bipolar dumbass for me to enjoy the music honestly, even if the production slaps

    Maybe I've just been around and dated too many bipolar girls for me to find it appealing. It's like PTSD

    Always blew me away how you would disregard most his albums even before he went off the deep end.

  • rvi 🦜
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    Elric

    We had a listening party for that and it was me and like 6 or 7 girls. I'll never forget the audible groans when Husbands came on

    But they all lost their s*** when River came on cause I guess I was the only one that didnt know the song be sampled for it. It's great. Slide and Fried hit that dystopiYe spot for me too ngl.

    god that song is so awful lol

  • Apr 17
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    Elric

    We had a listening party for that and it was me and like 6 or 7 girls. I'll never forget the audible groans when Husbands came on

    But they all lost their s*** when River came on cause I guess I was the only one that didnt know the song be sampled for it. It's great. Slide and Fried hit that dystopiYe spot for me too ngl.

    Fried is diet Carnival but both are annoying imo. those hooligan chants wear thin on repeat listens

  • Apr 17
    rvi

    god that song is so awful lol

    Definitely in that immediately delete forever club. Used to be a small club

  • Apr 17
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    Elric

    Always blew me away how you would disregard most his albums even before he went off the deep end.

    The ranting dumbass over the beats didnt throw you off?

  • Apr 17
    Galaxy de list mon

    Fried is diet Carnival but both are annoying imo. those hooligan chants wear thin on repeat listens

    I like to rattle my houses foundations with them occasionally but they are are basically Nazi rally trap no doubt about it

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    risecrashing

    The ranting dumbass over the beats didnt throw you off?

    When

  • Apr 17
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    Elric

    When

    He's occasionally funny but mostly he's just a mentally ill dork that makes some sick beats

  • rvi 🦜
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    Galaxy de list mon

    Fried is diet Carnival but both are annoying imo. those hooligan chants wear thin on repeat listens

    thought it was total trash at first but Carnival kinda grew on me

    Kanye's verse is a total mental breakdown but it still sounds hard, its kinda fascinating

  • Apr 17
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    rvi

    thought it was total trash at first but Carnival kinda grew on me

    Kanye's verse is a total mental breakdown but it still sounds hard, its kinda fascinating

    Exactly. The way he was dropping into his verses in the Vultures bangers was theatrical in a WWF heel type of way playing up the villain arc so hard.

  • rvi 🦜
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    Elric

    Exactly. The way he was dropping into his verses in the Vultures bangers was theatrical in a WWF heel type of way playing up the villain arc so hard.

    this that game of thrones

    yeezy not the clones

  • Apr 17
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    rvi

    this that game of thrones

    yeezy not the clones

    Three gang leaders with me, all times

  • I dunno I just like pleasant s*** these days

    Call me soft