Halfway through
At least Canadian badass Chris Plummer is being a d*** in it

You want real feels?
!https://youtu.be/ZeI0PXj7LIw?si=yKQLCrzO409r5J-Foh yeah I seen this, once was enough
Gf got sick of the songs so thankfully we were fast forwarding through most of them
F***ing guy kept doing Edelweiss
I felt almost the same way about Portrait that you felt about Mirror
overrated bs
I felt almost the same way about Portrait that you felt about Mirror
overrated bs
it was a very compelling romance
maybe straightoids wouldnt get it
it was a very compelling romance
maybe straightoids wouldnt get it
Ill admit i went into it with a bad attitude after Sight & Sound bounced a bunch of all time masterpieces off the list to jack Portrait up to the 30th best film of all time
I feel like it takes years for a film to settle into its place in the cannon and it feels very ridiculous to slap a 2019 movie over all of these;
definitely just felt like it got there because its queer coded and directed by a woman and they didnt want to look so old, male and white (which I get but where's Elaine May who is actually great).
my gf was accusing me of being a chauvinist for thinking this before we hit play and went it was over she was like
"yeah that was good but definitely not touching all those classics that got bounced off the list"
Ill admit i went into it with a bad attitude after Sight & Sound bounced a bunch of all time masterpieces off the list to jack Portrait up to the 30th best film of all time
I feel like it takes years for a film to settle into its place in the cannon and it feels very ridiculous to slap a 2019 movie over all of these;
definitely just felt like it got there because its queer coded and directed by a woman and they didnt want to look so old, male and white (which I get but where's Elaine May who is actually great).
my gf was accusing me of being a chauvinist for thinking this before we hit play and went it was over she was like
"yeah that was good but definitely not touching all those classics that got bounced off the list"
that like the rolling stone of film im assuming?
only seen one of those movies but its totally washing chinatown i fear
Top fiddy of 2024
1. Jessica Pratt – Here In The Pitch
2. Nala Sinephro – Endlessness
3. Nicolas Jaar – Piedras 1
4. Moin – You Never End
5. Cindy Lee – Diamond Jubilee
6. Rafael Toral – Spectral Evolution
7. MJ Lenderman – Manning Fireworks
8. Mabe Fratti – Sentir Que No Sabes
9. The Cure – Songs Of A Lost World
10. Nilüfer Yanya – My Method Actor
11. Magdalena Bay – Imaginal Disk
12. Joanne Robertson + Dean Blunt – Backstage Raver
13. Milan W – Leave Another Day
14. Los Campesinos – All Hell
15. Fuubutsushi – Meridians
16. Charli xcx – Brat
17. Bianca Scout – Pattern Damage
18. Still House Plants – if I don’t make it, I love you
19. Adrianne Lenker – Bright Future
20. Vince Staples – Dark Times
21. CS + Kreme – The Butterfly Drinks The Tears of The Tortoise
22. DJ Sabrina the Teenage DJ – Hex
23. Fabiana Palladino – Fabiana Palladino
24. Mach-Hommy - #RICHAXXHAITIAN
25. Waxahatchee – Tigers Blood
26. Two Shell – Two Shell
27. High Vis – Guided Tour
28. Mount Kimbie – The Sunset Violent
29. Loidis – One Day
30. Ulla + Ultrafog – It Means A Lot
31. Beth Gibbons – Lives Outgrown
32. D*** Church – PRUDE
33. Mount Eerie – Night Palace
34. Touché Amoré – Spiral In A Straight Line
35. Jabu – A Soft and Gatherable Star
36. Jawnino – 40
37. Mannequin P**** – I Got Heaven
38. Father John Misty – Mahashmashana
39. Dummy – Free Energy
40. Total Blue – Total Blue
41. Kendrick Lamar – gnx
42. Being Dead – Eels
43. Cassandra Jenkins – My Light, My Destroyer
44. Fred Thomas – Window In The Rhythm
45. Ducks Ltd – Harm’s Way
46. Wishy – Triple Seven
47. Vampire Weekend – Only God Was Above Us
48. Klein – marked
49. Fontaines DC – Romance
50. Princ€ss – Princ€ss
I felt almost the same way about Portrait that you felt about Mirror
overrated bs
Both are spectacular
that like the rolling stone of film im assuming?
only seen one of those movies but its totally washing chinatown i fear
You haven’t seen Rio Bravo, Lawrence, or The Wild Bunch?
that like the rolling stone of film im assuming?
only seen one of those movies but its totally washing chinatown i fear
no they're more like The Quietus or something. they been doing poll that the industry votes on for "Top 100 films of all time" list once per decade since 1952... Citizen Kane was at the top every year for like 50 years... then Vertigo for a few decades.... and now its Jeanne Dielman which is a great film but its also the slowest 200 minute French film you could possibly imagine. probably inaccessibly slow to about 98 percent of filmgoers.. but hey its a woman at the top finally
say what you will about Chinatown but Portrait is not better then every film made by;
Brian De Palma, Michael Mann, Werner Herzog, John Huston, Wim Wenders, Howard Hawks, Robert Altman etc....
I get the film industry was extremely geared toward male filmmakers which was unfair but still feel like they overcompensated to a crazy degree.
none of this really matters but it did skew my expectations for Portrait. I expected a life changing masterpiece but was mostly bored.
Top fiddy of 2024
1. Jessica Pratt – Here In The Pitch
2. Nala Sinephro – Endlessness
3. Nicolas Jaar – Piedras 1
4. Moin – You Never End
5. Cindy Lee – Diamond Jubilee
6. Rafael Toral – Spectral Evolution
7. MJ Lenderman – Manning Fireworks
8. Mabe Fratti – Sentir Que No Sabes
9. The Cure – Songs Of A Lost World
10. Nilüfer Yanya – My Method Actor
11. Magdalena Bay – Imaginal Disk
12. Joanne Robertson + Dean Blunt – Backstage Raver
13. Milan W – Leave Another Day
14. Los Campesinos – All Hell
15. Fuubutsushi – Meridians
16. Charli xcx – Brat
17. Bianca Scout – Pattern Damage
18. Still House Plants – if I don’t make it, I love you
19. Adrianne Lenker – Bright Future
20. Vince Staples – Dark Times
21. CS + Kreme – The Butterfly Drinks The Tears of The Tortoise
22. DJ Sabrina the Teenage DJ – Hex
23. Fabiana Palladino – Fabiana Palladino
24. Mach-Hommy - #RICHAXXHAITIAN
25. Waxahatchee – Tigers Blood
26. Two Shell – Two Shell
27. High Vis – Guided Tour
28. Mount Kimbie – The Sunset Violent
29. Loidis – One Day
30. Ulla + Ultrafog – It Means A Lot
31. Beth Gibbons – Lives Outgrown
32. D*** Church – PRUDE
33. Mount Eerie – Night Palace
34. Touché Amoré – Spiral In A Straight Line
35. Jabu – A Soft and Gatherable Star
36. Jawnino – 40
37. Mannequin P**** – I Got Heaven
38. Father John Misty – Mahashmashana
39. Dummy – Free Energy
40. Total Blue – Total Blue
41. Kendrick Lamar – gnx
42. Being Dead – Eels
43. Cassandra Jenkins – My Light, My Destroyer
44. Fred Thomas – Window In The Rhythm
45. Ducks Ltd – Harm’s Way
46. Wishy – Triple Seven
47. Vampire Weekend – Only God Was Above Us
48. Klein – marked
49. Fontaines DC – Romance
50. Princ€ss – Princ€ss
Cindy lee should be 1 but i guess that'll do
You haven’t seen Rio Bravo, Lawrence, or The Wild Bunch?
no i havent really been watching movies that are that dusty
no they're more like The Quietus or something. they been doing poll that the industry votes on for "Top 100 films of all time" list once per decade since 1952... Citizen Kane was at the top every year for like 50 years... then Vertigo for a few decades.... and now its Jeanne Dielman which is a great film but its also the slowest 200 minute French film you could possibly imagine. probably inaccessibly slow to about 98 percent of filmgoers.. but hey its a woman at the top finally
say what you will about Chinatown but Portrait is not better then every film made by;
Brian De Palma, Michael Mann, Werner Herzog, John Huston, Wim Wenders, Howard Hawks, Robert Altman etc....
I get the film industry was extremely geared toward male filmmakers which was unfair but still feel like they overcompensated to a crazy degree.
none of this really matters but it did skew my expectations for Portrait. I expected a life changing masterpiece but was mostly bored.
i get not liking it but yeah going into anything expecting a masterpiece is always going to be tough
and the part about overcompensation is kinda tough. ive noticed this with music but in film i feel like its even more pronounced. like clearly men vastly outnumbered women in these fields and had a staggering advantage so its hard to retroactively act like it was more equal than it was. and the fewer women artists did actually tend to be underrated anyway so that makes it even tougher to try to decide how high they should really be
no i havent really been watching movies that are that dusty
You listen to much dustier music
You gotta see Rio Bravo. Ricky Nelson is amazing in it.
i get not liking it but yeah going into anything expecting a masterpiece is always going to be tough
and the part about overcompensation is kinda tough. ive noticed this with music but in film i feel like its even more pronounced. like clearly men vastly outnumbered women in these fields and had a staggering advantage so its hard to retroactively act like it was more equal than it was. and the fewer women artists did actually tend to be underrated anyway so that makes it even tougher to try to decide how high they should really be
Yeah it's tough for sure. I'm usually down for cranking a female musician to the top of my list with music (Siouxsie, MIA, Aretha, Martha etc) but why are the slowest female French movies contending with the best s*** by anybody from anywhere
haven't seen Beau Travail but that's in the top ten now too
I feel like anybody else that finds that list and wants to dip their toe into film history is gonna run away after attempting Jeanne Dielman.
You listen to much dustier music
You gotta see Rio Bravo. Ricky Nelson is amazing in it.
took me a long time to be able to listen to music that dusty though
plus the abstract nature of music makes it a little easier. with films its multiple things combining like entirely different ways of storytelling, visuals, dialogue, culture, humor, etc. its a lot to process
Cindy lee should be 1 but i guess that'll do
It is great and I think maybe on another day I could do my top 6 in a completely different order. But I'm listening to Here in the Pitch again now and I'm afraid I am correct it is number 1
@Koala
that Lighthouse rewatch was dope
Talkin bout that End of Days when Gabriel Byrne blows his cigarette smoke into that old man’s oxygen tent
Top fiddy of 2024
1. Jessica Pratt – Here In The Pitch
2. Nala Sinephro – Endlessness
3. Nicolas Jaar – Piedras 1
4. Moin – You Never End
5. Cindy Lee – Diamond Jubilee
6. Rafael Toral – Spectral Evolution
7. MJ Lenderman – Manning Fireworks
8. Mabe Fratti – Sentir Que No Sabes
9. The Cure – Songs Of A Lost World
10. Nilüfer Yanya – My Method Actor
11. Magdalena Bay – Imaginal Disk
12. Joanne Robertson + Dean Blunt – Backstage Raver
13. Milan W – Leave Another Day
14. Los Campesinos – All Hell
15. Fuubutsushi – Meridians
16. Charli xcx – Brat
17. Bianca Scout – Pattern Damage
18. Still House Plants – if I don’t make it, I love you
19. Adrianne Lenker – Bright Future
20. Vince Staples – Dark Times
21. CS + Kreme – The Butterfly Drinks The Tears of The Tortoise
22. DJ Sabrina the Teenage DJ – Hex
23. Fabiana Palladino – Fabiana Palladino
24. Mach-Hommy - #RICHAXXHAITIAN
25. Waxahatchee – Tigers Blood
26. Two Shell – Two Shell
27. High Vis – Guided Tour
28. Mount Kimbie – The Sunset Violent
29. Loidis – One Day
30. Ulla + Ultrafog – It Means A Lot
31. Beth Gibbons – Lives Outgrown
32. D*** Church – PRUDE
33. Mount Eerie – Night Palace
34. Touché Amoré – Spiral In A Straight Line
35. Jabu – A Soft and Gatherable Star
36. Jawnino – 40
37. Mannequin P**** – I Got Heaven
38. Father John Misty – Mahashmashana
39. Dummy – Free Energy
40. Total Blue – Total Blue
41. Kendrick Lamar – gnx
42. Being Dead – Eels
43. Cassandra Jenkins – My Light, My Destroyer
44. Fred Thomas – Window In The Rhythm
45. Ducks Ltd – Harm’s Way
46. Wishy – Triple Seven
47. Vampire Weekend – Only God Was Above Us
48. Klein – marked
49. Fontaines DC – Romance
50. Princ€ss – Princ€ss
The Sunset Violent is prob the album that grew on me the most throughout the year. I enjoyed it first listen but now it’s top 20.
Talkin bout that End of Days when Gabriel Byrne blows his cigarette smoke into that old man’s oxygen tent
That one was a video store clossic
I remember my dad and I rented it when my mom and sister were away on a Girl Scouts trip
took me a long time to be able to listen to music that dusty though
plus the abstract nature of music makes it a little easier. with films its multiple things combining like entirely different ways of storytelling, visuals, dialogue, culture, humor, etc. its a lot to process
I feel like it's the opposite for me. mainly because the production values for cinema hit staggering levels of quality and tapped into levels of high art in the 20's whereas any music from before the mid 50s sounds incredibly dusty and archaic to me.
Took non-classical music like 30-40 years to catch up with the production values and artfulness of peak cinema.