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  • rvi

    never thought about it but putting lennon or mccartney on any list of greatest lyricists would have never crossed my mind

    #1 bobby d
    #2 mr cave and the woeful sperm

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    Brian Wilson having someone edit for him an hour long loop of the hook of Be My Baby is a decision after my own heart. Just drifting away to bliss.

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    rvi

    never thought about it but putting lennon or mccartney on any list of greatest lyricists would have never crossed my mind

    Ray had the best words of the Invasion but Beedles were definitely in second place. Lennon was a potent Dylan acolyte and could write spicy dinger lines on call for most the 60s. Paul could literally roll out of bed and write a timeless enough song that 65 soul covers would be out within 2 years. These werent songs that relied on catchy chorus' so much as lyrics that tapped into the benevolence of the human spirit or what the f*** ever in a generational undeniable way.

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    Aruji

    sry but Beach Boys when it comes to vocal harmonies

    easily above the Beatles

    likes leagues above

    Pet Sounds harmonies dominate literally everyone except The Temptations

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    Fella

    Brian Wilson having someone edit for him an hour long loop of the hook of Be My Baby is a decision after my own heart. Just drifting away to bliss.

    Heroin s***

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    Aruji

    sry but Beach Boys when it comes to vocal harmonies

    easily above the Beatles

    likes leagues above

    True but i would still put the everlys a pubic hair higher than the beach boys

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    Elric

    True but i would still put the everlys a pubic hair higher than the beach boys

    3 way tie tbh

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    Fella

    Brian Wilson having someone edit for him an hour long loop of the hook of Be My Baby is a decision after my own heart. Just drifting away to bliss.

    ?

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    internet buddy

    Pet Sounds harmonies dominate literally everyone except The Temptations

    And Miracles

    And maybe Drifters

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    for what it's worth.

    Enya (not a group obviously) also has beautifully arranged vocal harmonies (as well as Steinman)

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    internet buddy

    3 way tie tbh

    Probably. Everlys have a staggering amount of zenith material tbh they were cranking out the gold.

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    Aruji

    for what it's worth.

    Enya (not a group obviously) also has beautifully arranged vocal harmonies (as well as Steinman)

    Lol I had a great Enya day recently big nostalgia

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    Elric

    Ray had the best words of the Invasion but Beedles were definitely in second place. Lennon was a potent Dylan acolyte and could write spicy dinger lines on call for most the 60s. Paul could literally roll out of bed and write a timeless enough song that 65 soul covers would be out within 2 years. These werent songs that relied on catchy chorus' so much as lyrics that tapped into the benevolence of the human spirit or what the f*** ever in a generational undeniable way.

    if it was all the lyrics wonder why all the songs caught on so much with all those countries who didnt speak english :mystery:

    surely you agree theres some faff though right? like are the All You Need Is Love lyrics worth that much to you for example?

    i dont see much argument for the lyrics being more important than the melodies tbh i dont think its even remotely close especially considering the early stuff which clearly isnt that special or amazing lyrically but it was melodically/harmonically/w.e. generation gap also might be worth mentioning, since lyrics are the only part of music that actually ages. as time goes i'd think the successive generations of beatles fans see their lyrics as less and less important/relatable

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    Elric

    ?

    Look it up. It’s a true story. He was obsessed with that song.

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    Fella

    Look it up. It’s a true story. He was obsessed with that song.

    You're making it sound like Brian already died. Can't you just tell me what you're talking about?

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    Aruji

    for what it's worth.

    Enya (not a group obviously) also has beautifully arranged vocal harmonies (as well as Steinman)

    I’ve always felt that the Titanic song would actually be a perfect piece of music if it was sung by Enya and produced by Steinmann.

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    Elric

    You're making it sound like Brian already died. Can't you just tell me what you're talking about?

    What do you mean? I’m not being cryptic? This happened in the 60’s.

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    Bee Gees harmonies are underrated.

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    Fella

    I’ve always felt that the Titanic song would actually be a perfect piece of music if it was sung by Enya and produced by Steinmann.

    the tune is great so I can definitely see that.

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    Elric

    Lol I had a great Enya day recently big nostalgia

    what albums were you listening to?
    I really love her first three albums

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    RASIE

    S*** i think i have like 30 of their albums in my library haha i love shuffling them on long roadtrips to break up stretches of regular music

    I mean obviously both of their Kanye ones and then both New Order/Joy Division ones, and The Cure. The VU&N one is cool too.

    i know their catalogue is massive

    never listened to the kanye ones. like the VU and Cure ones too

  • rvi 🦤
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    gonna try some weed with higher CBD and less THC content been a long ass time since i smoked

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    Elric

    Probably. Everlys have a staggering amount of zenith material tbh they were cranking out the gold.

    Actually 4 way tie
    Beatles, Everlys, Wilsons, Temptations

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    Fella

    Bee Gees harmonies are underrated.

    Tragedy

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    rvi

    if it was all the lyrics wonder why all the songs caught on so much with all those countries who didnt speak english :mystery:

    surely you agree theres some faff though right? like are the All You Need Is Love lyrics worth that much to you for example?

    i dont see much argument for the lyrics being more important than the melodies tbh i dont think its even remotely close especially considering the early stuff which clearly isnt that special or amazing lyrically but it was melodically/harmonically/w.e. generation gap also might be worth mentioning, since lyrics are the only part of music that actually ages. as time goes i'd think the successive generations of beatles fans see their lyrics as less and less important/relatable

    I guess you missed but this whole Beatles conversation started with me talking s*** on their songwriting on Abbey Road

    Even if I the lyrics weren't as interesting on that album they absolutely did the trick as far as capturing a feeling everybody on earth wanted to experience if they spoke English or not. That's probably partly the melodic aspect and the vocal expressiveness aspect tied in together or something. But they were generally a little lyrically sharper when they weren't gobbling mountains of LSD (67) or getting into even harder d**** and a mountain of spite (69). I know this d***gy lore sounds preposterous but they tapped into the motherlode of songwriting when they were cut of from all the d**** in India and write enough top shelf material to release a double album and supplement half Abbey Road.