Apr 19, 2021
pussy baconI didn't mean this season lol, just in general
I see, I agree with your argument. Let's take Arsenal and Tottenham like the other user said. They would be permanent members while clubs like Sevilla have been performing way better in Europe during the last decade. S*** is sad.
Apr 19, 2021·2 replies
KingOfPopIt's greed in its purest form. Anyone backing it has no understanding of the beauty & meaning of football.
Merely a way for the rich to get richer.
For sure but I think with how powerful clubs are now, this was coming. Hate to sound defeatist but 🤷🏽 It’s been talked about for almost a decade
- Apr 19, 2021·1 reply
No Future AwardedFootball fans are being dramatic, if u don’t like this u shoulda never been watchin the UCL in the 1st place
Missing the point again. This is NOT the UCL where you EARN the spot based on merit & performance through 38 games. This is owners who have no idea about the history of the clubs joining together to guarantee spots they don't deserve & rake in profits, with some of those owners on the executive board of the league.
Tottenham, Arsenal etc guaranteeing spots they wouldn't earn & that's ok?
- Apr 19, 2021Fitz
For sure but I think with how powerful clubs are now, this was coming. Hate to sound defeatist but 🤷🏽 It’s been talked about for almost a decade
Yep - it's been talked about for years but to see the outright greed in front of your eyes makes me embarrassed to be a United fan. Doesn't make it any easier to see.
- Apr 19, 2021
MattM· editedI don't support super clubs only, I support my local club even more.
A club that won a major European trophy in 1967 & a club that will never get the chance to compete against the big players if the Super League happens, even though it was always a mainstay in European competitions and reached the 2nd phase of a major European competition twice in the past 3 years, this year - ironically - by knocking out f***ing TOTTENHAM, a team that will play in the Super League.
A club that raised or had a hand in raising players like Luka Modric, Zvonimir Boban, Mateo Kovacic, Mario Mandzukic, etc.
I know that the days when clubs like Red Star Belgrade or Steaua Bucharest could win the CL are gone, but there was always a possibility of smaller clubs doing great like Deportivo La Coruna, Monaco, Porto, have in the past few decades etc.
This project is a spit in the face of any f***ing true football fan & honestly F*** anyone that supports it.
#againstmodernfootballI 100% sympathize with you. This is terrible for a local fan. Never will they get to see their team compete at the top in a proper division.
The game’s gone mad. I can only offer you moral support. ❤️
Apr 19, 2021·2 repliesthis s*** is inevitable, UEFA was already planning to make it this way in 2024, what the 12 clubs just did is that they decided to take the whole cake instead of settling with the crumbs (especially those who don't win the competition) and all this "warfare" on them is because UEFA knows this is the end of their rule over football
PSG has been money laundering with the UEFA for far too long and clubs like Barca, Madrid are suffering in debt and then you got deals like Haaland or Mbappe where the agent wants 20m euros and noone can pay for it but PSG and Man City lmao, This had to happen. football fans are being dramatic
- Apr 19, 2021
yesacimprove by getting huge investments from overseas backers who pay slave wages and have terrible human rights records in their own countries
Football as a business long hasn't been the beautiful game you're describing
Leicester was a once in a lifetime anomaly, it was great to see but it's not to be expected, and their winning goes against the way the Premier League is already set upIm not defending modern football or any of that
this project is literally just greed personified. The owners want an endless stream of income without risk
And leicester winning the league wasn't an anomaly, it was certainly unexpected but not impossible. The super league would make it impossible for these "anomalies" to even occur in the first place
- Apr 19, 2021·1 replyKingOfPop
You're missing the point entirely. That 'once in a lifetime' is the beauty of the game. The FA Cup has a long history of the 'giant killers'. By doing this bullshit you're removing everything, performance isn't based on merit - it's based on how much money the owners can pump in & perceived status.
The only motivation for this is outright greed.
Of course its greed
Everything is greedI just don't respect the sanctimonious attitude people are having as if financial fair play isn't already abused every summer by some of the mega powers
Financially its not the beautiful game, hasn't been for a long time
- Apr 19, 2021No Future Awarded
Football fans are being dramatic, if u don’t like this u shoulda never been watchin the UCL in the 1st place
You have to qualify for the UCL each season, so technically every season the best teams compete. There's no 15 guaranteed spots for founding clubs.
However, with the updated UCL I think that might be changing too.
- Apr 19, 2021KingOfPop
Missing the point again. This is NOT the UCL where you EARN the spot based on merit & performance through 38 games. This is owners who have no idea about the history of the clubs joining together to guarantee spots they don't deserve & rake in profits, with some of those owners on the executive board of the league.
Tottenham, Arsenal etc guaranteeing spots they wouldn't earn & that's ok?
Bruh who gives af bruh stop thinkin bout jus England, clubs in Italy like Inter and Milan have never been relegated, a bulk of Italian viewership from the UCL comes from clubs like this, why shouldn’t they want to receive their cut of the profit they deserve?
- Apr 19, 2021·2 repliesMaximus
this s*** is inevitable, UEFA was already planning to make it this way in 2024, what the 12 clubs just did is that they decided to take the whole cake instead of settling with the crumbs (especially those who don't win the competition) and all this "warfare" on them is because UEFA knows this is the end of their rule over football
PSG has been money laundering with the UEFA for far too long and clubs like Barca, Madrid are suffering in debt and then you got deals like Haaland or Mbappe where the agent wants 20m euros and noone can pay for it but PSG and Man City lmao, This had to happen. football fans are being dramatic
Exactly. I think people here see UEFA as the “good guys” almost but they literally approved their new format this morning.
Think of the balls Perez has to do this to a competition his club has won 13 times. There’s money to be made and that’s what fuels the modern game.
We can not like it but we should be aware. Look at Chelsea, City, PSG. This will keep happening. The UCL itself - only the biggest teams make it this far because of infrastructure and resources.
everyone is commending PSG for not being in the ESL but PSG has direct ties to Qatar and Qatar probably doesn’t want to antagonize FIFA so close to the World Cup. They will join when they can as well (should this even happen)
Part of me thinks this is all a bargaining chip anyway
- Apr 19, 2021
Stop callin these clubs greedy but not acknowledging UEFA is being greedy here themselves, they don’t care bout the integrity of the game or nun of that s***. They never have and never will
- Apr 19, 2021Maximus
this s*** is inevitable, UEFA was already planning to make it this way in 2024, what the 12 clubs just did is that they decided to take the whole cake instead of settling with the crumbs (especially those who don't win the competition) and all this "warfare" on them is because UEFA knows this is the end of their rule over football
PSG has been money laundering with the UEFA for far too long and clubs like Barca, Madrid are suffering in debt and then you got deals like Haaland or Mbappe where the agent wants 20m euros and noone can pay for it but PSG and Man City lmao, This had to happen. football fans are being dramatic
Thank u bra
- Apr 19, 2021·1 reply
Why tf are yall saying people are defending UEFA
literally one of the most corrupt organization in sports
Just because you agree with what they are saying right now doesn't mean you support them
- OPApr 19, 2021
damn u man kno nothing about football lol
- Apr 19, 2021Fitz
Exactly. I think people here see UEFA as the “good guys” almost but they literally approved their new format this morning.
Think of the balls Perez has to do this to a competition his club has won 13 times. There’s money to be made and that’s what fuels the modern game.
We can not like it but we should be aware. Look at Chelsea, City, PSG. This will keep happening. The UCL itself - only the biggest teams make it this far because of infrastructure and resources.
everyone is commending PSG for not being in the ESL but PSG has direct ties to Qatar and Qatar probably doesn’t want to antagonize FIFA so close to the World Cup. They will join when they can as well (should this even happen)
Part of me thinks this is all a bargaining chip anyway
Exactly, just the fact that Perez is the one behind it and is ready to abandon the 13 trophies that gave Madrid a huge fraction of its reputation makes me feel like there was no other way
- Apr 19, 2021·3 repliespussy bacon
Why tf are yall saying people are defending UEFA
literally one of the most corrupt organization in sports
Just because you agree with what they are saying right now doesn't mean you support them
Lol cuz that’s what’s goin on
UEFA is pretending they are protecting the integrity of the game when they are jus worried bout their pockets, if these teams decided jus not to compete in the UCL and create no league UEFA wouldn’t pushback as hard they jus scared to lose money
- OPApr 19, 2021·1 reply
13 yr old american real madrid “fans” itt saying ecl is a good thing lol
- Apr 19, 2021Fitz
Exactly. I think people here see UEFA as the “good guys” almost but they literally approved their new format this morning.
Think of the balls Perez has to do this to a competition his club has won 13 times. There’s money to be made and that’s what fuels the modern game.
We can not like it but we should be aware. Look at Chelsea, City, PSG. This will keep happening. The UCL itself - only the biggest teams make it this far because of infrastructure and resources.
everyone is commending PSG for not being in the ESL but PSG has direct ties to Qatar and Qatar probably doesn’t want to antagonize FIFA so close to the World Cup. They will join when they can as well (should this even happen)
Part of me thinks this is all a bargaining chip anyway
I hope you're right and the Super League doesn't happen, I have a feeling still that it won't, but it's the next logical step in the direction footballs been going for the last couple decades
- Apr 19, 2021·2 repliesNo Future Awarded
Lol cuz that’s what’s goin on
UEFA is pretending they are protecting the integrity of the game when they are jus worried bout their pockets, if these teams decided jus not to compete in the UCL and create no league UEFA wouldn’t pushback as hard they jus scared to lose money
Nobody is looking at UEFA as the "good guy", they're a corrupt organization just looking to make money. Doesn't mean they aren't right in this instance
enemy of my enemy or whatever
- OPApr 19, 2021·1 replyNo Future Awarded
Lol cuz that’s what’s goin on
UEFA is pretending they are protecting the integrity of the game when they are jus worried bout their pockets, if these teams decided jus not to compete in the UCL and create no league UEFA wouldn’t pushback as hard they jus scared to lose money
the ECL is a boring, americanised concept that goes against the spirit and competition of football that no real fan wants lol
We ain’t defending UEFA, it’s just the better of two evils
- Apr 19, 2021No Future Awarded
Lol cuz that’s what’s goin on
UEFA is pretending they are protecting the integrity of the game when they are jus worried bout their pockets, if these teams decided jus not to compete in the UCL and create no league UEFA wouldn’t pushback as hard they jus scared to lose money
It’s amazing how people think FIFA and UEFA have their best interests at heart
Makes you laugh really
At least Perez has the balls to say we’re doing this for more money and better entertainment
- Apr 19, 2021·1 replyyesac
Of course its greed
Everything is greedI just don't respect the sanctimonious attitude people are having as if financial fair play isn't already abused every summer by some of the mega powers
Financially its not the beautiful game, hasn't been for a long time
Money in football here is not the sole problem.
As Neville said - 'The principles and ethos of fair competition & the right to play the game so that Leicester win the league, they go into the Champions League. Manchester United aren't even in the Champions League, Arsenal aren't even in the Champions League.. absolute shambles of a football club at the moment, Tottenham aren't in the Champions League and they want a God given right to be in there?'
There is no merit to this league. The UCL is so different, it truly is not comparable.
- Apr 19, 2021·2 repliespussy bacon
Nobody is looking at UEFA as the "good guy", they're a corrupt organization just looking to make money. Doesn't mean they aren't right in this instance
enemy of my enemy or whatever
Lol if u are arguing “these leagues are gonna ruin domestic leagues and cups by creating this league “
Then u are indeed siding wit UEFA my man, UEFA is the only reason why these teams participate in domestic leagues/cups, these teams have broken no rules yet UEFA insists on banning them
That is fault of UEFA not these clubs
Apr 19, 2021·1 replyyesacHow is that any different to football for the past couple decades prior to yesterday tho?
If this was made 20 years ago teams like leverkusen ajax and valencia would have been invited and that's never happening today
Atletico have been a good team for barely 10 years and tottenham have been half decent for like 5 lol
While there's that handful of teams that are always gonna be part of the big clubs the landscape is always changing, this current system is only gonna benefit these same 12 teams for the long term