If you can't see that trap is far longer lasting and more prevalent term than some Pitchfork buzzword of the week then I can't help you with that, weirdo.

why tf you bringing in neoliberalism to this

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As an example that new things have many different terms simultaneously and then one of them usually emerges victorious and the other terms are lost to the sands of time. Nowadays it seems obvious that the term is "neoliberalism" or "punk rock" or whatever term, but it might have not been back in the day.

'trap' as used by the people earl is talking about is exactly the same as that

Old Trap is the GOAT genre

I guarantee this dude is classifying melodic rapping as singing. No one in their right mind would classify Travis as a singer

Another example I can think of is French house.

It was often called nu-disco or filter house back in those days. Nowadays I only hear the word French house.

defend this d*** in your mouth that s*** annoying

Trap has long since shifted from being soley bout subject matter to being about the sound with subject matter

Then why is the term in mainstream use since 12 years to the point where even an unrelated EDM genre with the same name emerged while PB&R, an obviously tongue-in-cheek name, is used nowhere

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LMFAOOOOOOOO NO WAY

I mean it's an apt parallel of language evolving

You can compare it to the death-of-the-author phenomenon. It doesn't really matter what T.I., Gucci Mane or Lex Luger say is trap or not, what matters is which definition is most commonly used. This is why genres water down (see: late 90s UK dubstep versus early 10s US dubstep) and start anew by spiraling off into new things. A small genre gets too big, gets diluted by waveriders and corporate interests, the genre becomes a cliché of its former self and the avantgarde breaks off and starts something new. This cycle has been going on forever and trap is not exempt for it. The days of Gucci Mane prison phone intros are long gone

Theres a f***ing subgenre of EDM called trap the s***s been gentrified for a minute

Same goes for just regular hip hop/rap. What we consider rap today wouldn't be considered rap in the 90s or 2000s

He definitely got that s*** from Tyler, sounds 100% like something he would say 🤣

Crazy to think these two songs are both considered rap when you put it that way

i'm not stuck on that one it's 'alternative r&b' that is still everywhere when there is no good reason for it to be. even the grammys pulled some nonsense renaming a category best 'progressive r&b' to try and give it some prestigious esteem as if it's any better than 'urban'

100% right