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  • Aug 22, 2025
    trilla
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    Solange made a comment that white journalists covering R&B music should know who Brandy is. She was asked to join the New York Times podcast to discuss her comments and declined.

    Jon and some other white guy went ahead and discussed Solange and the topic and Jon said “I went to Solange’s concert and I noted who her audience was, and if I were her, I’d be careful of making these statements because I’d be careful not to bite the hand that feeds me.”

    Damn lol he thought he ate with that one.

  • trilla
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    Solange made a comment that white journalists covering R&B music should know who Brandy is. She was asked to join the New York Times podcast to discuss her comments and declined.

    Jon and some other white guy went ahead and discussed Solange and the topic and Jon said “I went to Solange’s concert and I noted who her audience was, and if I were her, I’d be careful of making these statements because I’d be careful not to bite the hand that feeds me.”

    Smh Jay Z should've sent the black vans after that s*** immediately

  • Aug 22, 2025
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    ......yall are on a music forum and dont know who Jon Caramanica is....are yall fr lmao

  • Aug 22, 2025

    Idk if it’s necessarily racists I mean I’ve seen black people complain bout that s***. It can be generational thing. But a lot of rappers got grouped into being “Mumble rap” unfairly because they weren’t as bar heavy/lyrics driven as others.

  • Aug 22, 2025
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    rustcohlestan2

    ......yall are on a music forum and dont know who Jon Caramanica is....are yall fr lmao

    I'm supposed to know who every white hip-hop reviewer is or something...?

  • Aug 22, 2025
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    YoU dOnT kNoW wHo JoN CaRaMaNiCa Is!?

  • Aug 22, 2025
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    Smacked Voodoo

    I'm supposed to know who every white hip-hop reviewer is or something...?

    aight man yall got it lmao and yall wonder why music journalism is in the s***ter lmao

  • Aug 22, 2025
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    AvenueJones

    That’s can be true but he isnt a bad interviewer or journalists. He’s just white.

    I feel like good interviewers set a comfortable tone for open dialogue that feels natural especially these long form video interviews, I haven't gotten that vibe from any of the ones I've watched. YNS for example is a million times better at this with better questions and he hasn't been writing for nyt for decades

  • Aug 22, 2025
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    rustcohlestan2

    aight man yall got it lmao and yall wonder why music journalism is in the s***ter lmao

    I'm sorry that at no point I have ever heard or cared about your favorite white slob music reviewer bro.

  • Aug 22, 2025
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    Putting these corny white mfers on a pedestal and I bet you can't even name me five contemporary Black music journalists who been doing the damn thing. Talmbout some "music journalism is in the s***ter".

  • Aug 22, 2025
    rustcohlestan2

    ......yall are on a music forum and dont know who Jon Caramanica is....are yall fr lmao

    why would I have any clue what the New York Times is saying about music. And more importantly, why would I care

  • Aug 22, 2025
    trilla

    When I see the name Jon Caramanica I always think about his microaggression comments about Solange that partly inspired A Seat at the Table.

    yea

  • Aug 22, 2025
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    Smacked Voodoo

    I'm sorry that at no point I have ever heard or cared about your favorite white slob music reviewer bro.

    i dont even fw jon like that so dont put that on my jacket lol, but to just downplay him like that while yall love to hype up trash like akademiks is the reason rap discourse rn is f***ing terrible

  • Aug 22, 2025
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    Smacked Voodoo

    YoU dOnT kNoW wHo JoN CaRaMaNiCa Is!?

    Tbf you probably heard about how that cracker disrespected True era Solange

    Solange wrote about how she didn't like that indie blogs didn't have a good grasp on R&B & that they should understand Brandy's music & the history of the genre etc before trying to review R&B

    He said she shouldn't disrespect indie critics because they 'made her' & that she 'shouldn't bite the hand that feeds her', there would be no interest in Solange with them giving her praise & her association to Grizzly Bear

    podcasts.nytimes.com/podcasts/2013/01/11/arts/music/11popcast_pod/0111-popcast.mp3 8:00

  • Aug 22, 2025
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    rustcohlestan2

    i dont even fw jon like that so dont put that on my jacket lol, but to just downplay him like that while yall love to hype up trash like akademiks is the reason rap discourse rn is f***ing terrible

    Fam... there is no way the person you are replying to likes Akademiks, c'mon now
    He's been a poster on here for ages, CG is one of his favourite musicians

    Don't put that akademiks tag on smacked voodoo

  • Aug 22, 2025
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    Smacked Voodoo

    Putting these corny white mfers on a pedestal and I bet you can't even name me five contemporary Black music journalists who been doing the damn thing. Talmbout some "music journalism is in the s***ter".

    toure
    the company man
    charles holmes

    s*** even alphonse as much as i dont like him

    off the top of my head lol

  • Aug 22, 2025
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    rustcohlestan2

    toure
    the company man
    charles holmes

    s*** even alphonse as much as i dont like him

    off the top of my head lol

    ....Yeah don't ever give me s*** for not knowing who the f*** Jon Caramanicia is lmao

    Matter fact, post a picture of your hand b.

  • Aug 22, 2025

    music journalism is in the s***ter specifically because people like jon caraharmonica are given the level of platform & access they are due to their veteran status lmfao

  • Flubber

    Fam... there is no way the person you are replying to likes Akademiks, c'mon now
    He's been a poster on here for ages, CG is one of his favourite musicians

    Don't put that akademiks tag on smacked voodoo

    not talking about him specifcally, but this forum in general.

    and he put that i fw jon like that so why cant i put that on his jacket?

  • Aug 22, 2025
    Flubber

    Tbf you probably heard about how that cracker disrespected True era Solange

    Solange wrote about how she didn't like that indie blogs didn't have a good grasp on R&B & that they should understand Brandy's music & the history of the genre etc before trying to review R&B

    He said she shouldn't disrespect indie critics because they 'made her' & that she 'shouldn't bite the hand that feeds her', there would be no interest in Solange with them giving her praise & her association to Grizzly Bear

    https://podcasts.nytimes.com/podcasts/2013/01/11/arts/music/11popcast_pod/0111-popcast.mp3 8:00

    I just found that out today so the fact this nigga tryna come at me cause I never heard of him is crazy lmao

    Like no I don't know/care about that fat white racist sack of s*** and now I'm annoyed I even heard of him.

  • Aug 22, 2025
    Smacked Voodoo

    ....Yeah don't ever give me s*** for not knowing who the f*** Jon Caramanicia is lmao

    Matter fact, post a picture of your hand b.

    ive posted myself in the post a picture of yourself thread plenty of times on my old acc lmao dont even try that with me

  • Aug 22, 2025
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    Alright y'all, let's stop it now

    Come together & hug, my brothers

  • Aug 22, 2025
    sfsorrow

    I feel like good interviewers set a comfortable tone for open dialogue that feels natural especially these long form video interviews, I haven't gotten that vibe from any of the ones I've watched. YNS for example is a million times better at this with better questions and he hasn't been writing for nyt for decades

    I’ve honestly only seen one full interview on this podcast fr and it was the Clipse one. That one seemed fine to me

    But I agree my boy @YoungNastyShawty is him when it comes to the interviews

  • Aug 22, 2025
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    Flubber

    Alright y'all, let's stop it now

    Come together & hug, my brothers

    Nah f*** that nigga lmao

  • Aug 22, 2025
    bigmike0123

    This is just saying something stupid and fake profound and people gassing it up to make it seem smart. It’s a stupid statement.

    His little “you from Kansas” line probably had more racial undertones than when people say they don’t like mumble rap.