thegreatdivine

3y

Point to where I said that. Quickly.

JeffersonSteelflex

3y

There we go! Then if we wanna take it somewhere else, CMIYGL has had everyone running to Drama again for a project too.

BrickellBayside

3y

The album is loaded with peak drake, almost none of which are “singles”

Is there more(!!!!)
Jaded (!!!!)
Survival
Nonstop
Elevate
Sandra’s rose
Emotionless
8 out of 10
Can’t take a joke
March 14th
Mob Ties
Peak

Not counting some of the biggest rap records of this era in god’s plan and nice for what.

I get it music is subjective but he don’t have many more albums in his catalogue with this many high quality drake records. The volume + quality is insane and I think if you listen to it without the pusha t context, many would feel differently about it.

BrickellBayside

3y

Exactly how I feel.

I don’t know of any other rapper today who could do a double album and reach that level of volume + quality. Insane feat.

It’s honestly in my top 5 OAT drake projects. Probably top 4.

BrickellBayside

3y

The standards he’s held to are insane. That’s why every album it gets lukewarm reception but 4 months later someone goes viral for championing how good the album is.

It’s all personal, but IMO idk how you could love drake’s music and not see the flat out brilliance of scorpion. 20/25 is right where I’d have it too, and that probably puts it right up there with the best albums of his catalogue

I’m clashing scorpion with any other album in his catalogue

thegreatdivine

3y

It's definitely better than it gets credit for. It's funny people don't see how biased they are against Drake. It's happened like 5 times now. He drops a new album, everyone's s***s on it and calls it mid/trash and then a few months later, everyone starts doing a 180° on their takes. Happened with Views, More Life, CLB, Honestly, Nevermind.

925Andrew

3y

I think the songs are good but it doesn’t provide as Clean of a listen as some of his other projects which is why I would rate it under some other projects

rozco

3y

Discog wise it’s Drake and Kanye in a damn near dead heat. No one else is even close, if you’re saying otherwise you’re delusional or a hater.

JeffersonSteelflex

3y

How the hell was Oxymoron, Acid Rap, Sept 5th more impactful than IGOR, Flower Boy or Call Me If You Get Lost? You’re talking out of your ass now lmfao

925Andrew

3y

There’s some absolutely underrated gems. I almost never see anybody mention Sandra’s rose

And that’s not even including all the massive singles that are also good

thegreatdivine

3y

Where did I say that?

JeffersonSteelflex

3y

You just said Tyler doesn’t have impactful albums and then you listed the albums you said were impactful..?

BrickellBayside

3y

The album is loaded with peak drake, almost none of which are “singles”

Is there more(!!!!)
Jaded (!!!!)
Survival
Nonstop
Elevate
Sandra’s rose
Emotionless
8 out of 10
Can’t take a joke
March 14th
Mob Ties
Peak

Not counting some of the biggest rap records of this era in god’s plan and nice for what.

I get it music is subjective but he don’t have many more albums in his catalogue with this many high quality drake records. The volume + quality is insane and I think if you listen to it without the pusha t context, many would feel differently about it.

925Andrew

3y

It is definitely bloated, the problem is that there’s no consistency across which songs aren’t needed

I think OG scorpion may have been a classic tbh

BrickellBayside

3y

My theory is that because he's so good at simply making rap music that people like...that they have to be hypercritical of it otherwise they'd have to give him like 7 classics under his belt and would have to call him the undisputed GOAT and that's boring so they end up being hypercritical and fake...only to come around later.

His albums impact culture, they destroy billboard, and the songs on these albums live on far beyond the year that they're released in.

By almost any metric these albums are incredible and of high quality, but it's Drake so the standard has to be incredibly high...until inevitably the viral tweet or tik Tok comes and boom.

JeffersonSteelflex

3y

I said it up there but You just said Tyler doesn’t have impactful albums and then you listed the albums you said were impactful..?

thegreatdivine

3y

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I asked you to list 5 impactful Tyler songs and I said he doesn't make music that's impactful in mainstream rap and that's a fact.

2words

3y

Survival
Elevate
Emotionless
8 out of 10
March 14th

These are all dope to varying degrees but to call them “peak drake” is disrespect to his legendary catalog lol cmon

thegreatdivine

3y

No, I was asked what "impactful" meant and then I listed those albums.

JeffersonSteelflex

3y

The songs people listed are impactful to rap. Yonkers alone shifted alternative rap aesthetics alone in the early 2010s lol also something doesn’t have to be mainstream to be impactful. It sounds like you’re equating hits with impact

thegreatdivine

3y

I'm not. Tyler is a mainstream rapper, yes? That's why I specifically asked for 5 of his songs that were impactful in mainstream rap to be listed and it has nothing to do with hits.

Never said he doesn't make good music or doesn't have good albums or isn't a good musician. People in here were saying his discography is better than Drake's and that's where I got lost.

JeffersonSteelflex

3y

So are you saying Tyler’s albums are impactful or not? If not, then why are the albums you listed more impactful than Flower Boy, IGOR or CMIYGL?

JeffersonSteelflex

3y

It is better lol like Drake only got 3 great albums period where Tyler has a couple more over him imo but that’s just my opinion. I’ll change that to say it’s arguably better