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  • Mar 18, 2025
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    If anything is going to "kill" rap beefs, it'll be the commercialization of it. From Spotify instigating with billboards right after Like That to people saying Pushups doesn't count if it's not on DSPs.
    Put those little diss tracks on SoundCloud. Rap beef isn't going anywhere.

  • Mar 18, 2025
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    Drake = Hip-Hop
    Hip-Hop = Drake

  • Mar 18, 2025
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    thegreatdivine

    Name the mainstream rappers dropping diss tracks (that the culture cares about) left and right on DSPs.

    Youngboy vs Durk
    Quavo vs CB
    Freddie Gibbs vs JPEG
    Freddie Gibbs vs Benny
    Kodak Black vs Jackboy
    Young dolph vs CMG

    And then a bunch of battles in the underground/non mainstream.

  • Mar 18, 2025
    metaverse

    Drake = Hip-Hop
    Hip-Hop = Drake

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    Free YoungBoy

    Youngboy vs Durk
    Quavo vs CB
    Freddie Gibbs vs JPEG
    Freddie Gibbs vs Benny
    Kodak Black vs Jackboy
    Young dolph vs CMG

    And then a bunch of battles in the underground/non mainstream.

    I'm talking about DISS TRACKS, not songs that have niggas sending shots. And how many of those songs actually went up on DSPs? How many of those "battles" did we, as a culture, give a f*** about or take note of? That's my question.

    I'm not disputing that there are battles happening in the underground scene. That's a given.

    My point is that the last 3 major rap battles we've cared about in rap have ALL involved Drake. It was Meek vs. Drake, Pusha T vs. Drake and now Kendrick vs. Drake.

    In the Meek battle, it's a known fact that Drake refused UMG from pushing Back to Back as a single and forced them to push Hotline Bling instead. He didn't want them to submit the song for Grammy nomination (this is something Ebro confirmed). Back to Back had zero defamatory content and only went up on DSPs AFTER the battle was decided and Drake was crowned the winner. In the Pusha T battle, none of the diss tracks went up on DSPs. In this Kendrick battle, Drake initially didn't want any of his songs to go up on DSPs, but y'all kept harassing him, insisting that if he didn't upload Push Ups on DSPs, he wasn't claiming it, etc, so that's why his diss tracks started going up there.

    Drake's aim in all his rap battles has always been to keep it as far away from label interference as possible.

  • Mar 18, 2025
    Deezed

    Nigga on his lunchbreak defending UMG while his leftovers in the microwave heating up

  • Mar 18, 2025
    phq_

    it is wild that drake being soft as f*** has put UMG in the position to defend rap culture in a legal battle. they're providing a beef history going back to the 70's because drake just couldn't take the L and move on lmao

    Idgaf about this case but there’s no way your this naive lmfaoo

  • Mar 18, 2025
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    thegreatdivine

    I'm talking about DISS TRACKS, not songs that have niggas sending shots. And how many of those songs actually went up on DSPs? How many of those "battles" did we, as a culture, give a f*** about or take note of? That's my question.

    I'm not disputing that there are battles happening in the underground scene. That's a given.

    My point is that the last 3 major rap battles we've cared about in rap have ALL involved Drake. It was Meek vs. Drake, Pusha T vs. Drake and now Kendrick vs. Drake.

    In the Meek battle, it's a known fact that Drake refused UMG from pushing Back to Back as a single and forced them to push Hotline Bling instead. He didn't want them to submit the song for Grammy nomination (this is something Ebro confirmed). Back to Back had zero defamatory content and only went up on DSPs AFTER the battle was decided and Drake was crowned the winner. In the Pusha T battle, none of the diss tracks went up on DSPs. In this Kendrick battle, Drake initially didn't want any of his songs to go up on DSPs, but y'all kept harassing him, insisting that if he didn't upload Push Ups on DSPs, he wasn't claiming it, etc, so that's why his diss tracks started going up there.

    Drake's aim in all his rap battles has always been to keep it as far away from label interference as possible.

    I’m talking about diss tracks as well. Every artist I named dropped an actual diss track

    Like I said you wouldn’t know because you don’t actually listen to hip hop.

    You’re just a Drake Stan who comes on here to push his sales numbers like you do across the other 2-3 sites they found you post on.

  • Mar 18, 2025
    thegreatdivine

    I'm talking about DISS TRACKS, not songs that have niggas sending shots. And how many of those songs actually went up on DSPs? How many of those "battles" did we, as a culture, give a f*** about or take note of? That's my question.

    I'm not disputing that there are battles happening in the underground scene. That's a given.

    My point is that the last 3 major rap battles we've cared about in rap have ALL involved Drake. It was Meek vs. Drake, Pusha T vs. Drake and now Kendrick vs. Drake.

    In the Meek battle, it's a known fact that Drake refused UMG from pushing Back to Back as a single and forced them to push Hotline Bling instead. He didn't want them to submit the song for Grammy nomination (this is something Ebro confirmed). Back to Back had zero defamatory content and only went up on DSPs AFTER the battle was decided and Drake was crowned the winner. In the Pusha T battle, none of the diss tracks went up on DSPs. In this Kendrick battle, Drake initially didn't want any of his songs to go up on DSPs, but y'all kept harassing him, insisting that if he didn't upload Push Ups on DSPs, he wasn't claiming it, etc, so that's why his diss tracks started going up there.

    Drake's aim in all his rap battles has always been to keep it as far away from label interference as possible.

    @Nixx.

  • Mar 18, 2025
    Gosh

    Why do battles need to be mainstream for them to matter?

    That’s why there’s such a disconnect when “culture” is brought up

    Niche rap battles that aren’t widely known are literally what the culture is built on

    Not Drake vs whichever rapper is gonna embarrass him next

    is that the new dumbass narrative Drake stans came up with?

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    Free YoungBoy

    I’m talking about diss tracks as well. Every artist I named dropped an actual diss track

    Like I said you wouldn’t know because you don’t actually listen to hip hop.

    You’re just a Drake Stan who comes on here to push his sales numbers like you do across the other 2-3 sites they found you post on.

    How many of them are on DSPs? How many of those "battles" did we care about as a culture? Answer those questions. Stop ducking and speaking on me like you know s*** about me.

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    My point is that the last 3 major rap battles we've cared about in rap have ALL involved Drake. It was Meek vs. Drake, Pusha T vs. Drake and now Kendrick vs. Drake.

    Meanwhile in reality “ I hate “ is bigger than any Drake diss song other than Back to back. You’re so ignorant it hurts

  • Mar 18, 2025
    Gosh

    Why do battles need to be mainstream for them to matter?

    That’s why there’s such a disconnect when “culture” is brought up

    Niche rap battles that aren’t widely known are literally what the culture is built on

    Not Drake vs whichever rapper is gonna embarrass him next

    Why would a record label interfere with a rap battle or care about a rap battle that wasn't by mainstream rappers? That's my point of bringing up mainstream rap battles, doofus.

  • Mar 18, 2025
    Free YoungBoy

    My point is that the last 3 major rap battles we've cared about in rap have ALL involved Drake. It was Meek vs. Drake, Pusha T vs. Drake and now Kendrick vs. Drake.

    Meanwhile in reality “ I hate “ is bigger than any Drake diss song other than Back to back. You’re so ignorant it hurts

    !https://youtu.be/k-PaOWxvnz0?si=nCbsoyROkxYqu8Td

    Still haven't answered my question btw.

  • Mar 18, 2025
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    thegreatdivine

    How many of them are on DSPs? How many of those "battles" did we care about as a culture? Answer those questions. Stop ducking and speaking on me like you know s*** about me.

    Super gremlin peaked at 3 on the bb100

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    thegreatdivine

    How many of them are on DSPs? How many of those "battles" did we care about as a culture? Answer those questions. Stop ducking and speaking on me like you know s*** about me.

    And don’t say “we” when you talk about the culture because you’re clearly not apart of it

  • Mar 18, 2025
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    Free YoungBoy

    Super gremlin peaked at 3 on the bb100

    Not a diss track.

  • Mar 18, 2025
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    thegreatdivine

    I'm talking about DISS TRACKS, not songs that have niggas sending shots. And how many of those songs actually went up on DSPs? How many of those "battles" did we, as a culture, give a f*** about or take note of? That's my question.

    I'm not disputing that there are battles happening in the underground scene. That's a given.

    My point is that the last 3 major rap battles we've cared about in rap have ALL involved Drake. It was Meek vs. Drake, Pusha T vs. Drake and now Kendrick vs. Drake.

    In the Meek battle, it's a known fact that Drake refused UMG from pushing Back to Back as a single and forced them to push Hotline Bling instead. He didn't want them to submit the song for Grammy nomination (this is something Ebro confirmed). Back to Back had zero defamatory content and only went up on DSPs AFTER the battle was decided and Drake was crowned the winner. In the Pusha T battle, none of the diss tracks went up on DSPs. In this Kendrick battle, Drake initially didn't want any of his songs to go up on DSPs, but y'all kept harassing him, insisting that if he didn't upload Push Ups on DSPs, he wasn't claiming it, etc, so that's why his diss tracks started going up there.

    Drake's aim in all his rap battles has always been to keep it as far away from label interference as possible.

    I forgot about the Grammys and the fact the Drake didn't even want Back to Back to be nominated

  • Free YoungBoy

    And don’t say “we” when you talk about the culture because you’re clearly not apart of it

    Oh, look guys, it's the culture custodian

  • Mar 18, 2025
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    thegreatdivine

    Not a diss track.

    It’s literally a diss track towards his ex artist jackboy

  • Mar 18, 2025
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    thegreatdivine

    You're stupid if that's your take from this lmao.

    I'm not saying UMG good, f*** them, I'm saying drake bad because he made it this way. he put UMG in this position where they're holding up the history of hip hop as a way to fight this legal battle

    it didn't have to be this way!

  • Mar 18, 2025
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    Free YoungBoy

    It’s literally a diss track towards his ex artist jackboy

    No, it's a rap song with him taking shots. It's not a straight up diss track. Stop it.

  • Mar 18, 2025
    Deezed

    Lets go view for view from the office right now

  • Mar 18, 2025
    Deezed

    Lets go view for view from the office right now

  • orangetcovid 👌🏿
    Mar 18, 2025
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    tf yall arguing over now