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  • Nov 8, 2022
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    shaleirose

    Yeah this is why it’s baffling to me. It seems like he’s gotten more immature as time has progressed, I’ve never seen that with an artist before.

    Usually the older an artist gets, the more serious the themes in their music becomes.

    And it’s not that he’s the type of artist who separates his personal growth from his music because that’s the exact opposite of who Drake is as an artist; he’s said himself his music is like updates on his life

    Champagne Poetry, The Remorse, 7 AM on Bridle, F***ing Fans, that's not serious? Those aren't updates on his life?

  • Nov 8, 2022
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    Vietbrah

  • Nov 8, 2022
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    BrickellBayside

    Champagne Poetry, The Remorse, 7 AM on Bridle, F***ing Fans, that's not serious? Those aren't updates on his life?

    Man you know they just be talking lol

  • Nov 8, 2022
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    shaleirose

    Yeah this is why it’s baffling to me. It seems like he’s gotten more immature as time has progressed, I’ve never seen that with an artist before.

    Usually the older an artist gets, the more serious the themes in their music becomes.

    And it’s not that he’s the type of artist who separates his personal growth from his music because that’s the exact opposite of who Drake is as an artist; he’s said himself his music is like updates on his life

    Music is much broader than being hype/serious. Drake does things Kendrick never has done and probably never will and vice versa. They're just different artists. Also just because Drake is not conscious or political, doesn't mean the music doesn't have any emotional impact. And to suddenly expect it from him feels unfair. I love both of them for different reasons.

    Like @2words said "Look What You've Done" hits home for me also lots of his songs are my go-tos when I happen to feel heartbroken or something. S*** lowkey helped me survive my teenage years.

    Expecting a specific type of album from an artist, just because you're in a different position and mindset in life feels unfair too. Would I like him to hear his "matured and settled" outlook on life on albums? Sure. But if it's not going to happen then so be it, sometimes I will feel it, sometimes I will not that's life. At least I still got Take Care and Nothing Was The Same that are tied to my teenage memories and I can still listen to them and feel what I felt back then.

  • Nov 8, 2022
    BrickellBayside

    Champagne Poetry, The Remorse, 7 AM on Bridle, F***ing Fans, that's not serious? Those aren't updates on his life?

    I didn’t say he wasn’t giving us updates. The point is that people say ā€œwell an artist’s music isn’t reflective of their real lifeā€, but Drake has said several times for himself that is not the case.

    Also, those moments have been very few and far between since Views, and they’re a lot more vapid and shallow then they were from SFG-Views, as someone else ITT pointed out as well

  • shaleirose

    I feel like we haven’t gotten a verse this poignant from Drake in at least 5-6 years

    Before I get attacked: I think Her Loss is a good album, this is not me saying it’s bad

    Not attacking you

    But I just feel like, sometimes people just gloss over his discography and aren't really giving his discography the dive that it merits IMO because he's very much still this guy on every album

  • Nov 8, 2022
    quadra

    Man you know they just be talking lol

    They be saying anything

  • Vietbrah 😈
    Nov 8, 2022
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    Challenge:

    Put this on a playlist with 5 other Drake songs

  • Nov 8, 2022
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    They still taking about that Drake needs to be more mature lmao

  • Nov 8, 2022
    quadra

    Man you know they just be talking lol

    If you read what I said, my argument isn’t that he’s not giving us updates on his life.

    Reading comprehension is important

  • Nov 8, 2022
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    mov

    They still taking about that Drake needs to be more mature lmao

    Aren’t they tired of trying to prove a point that sounds delirious

  • Nov 8, 2022
    Winner

    Aren’t they tired of trying to prove a point that sounds delirious

    It's always the same 3 people itt so nah they aren't tired

  • Jbreezyondeck šŸŒ¬ļø
    Nov 8, 2022

    Idk who pissed Drake off for his More M’s verse but damn

  • Nov 8, 2022

    And I know what I said bout bein in Vogue
    But just like that R&B group from the '90s
    Girl one call I'll get you in Vogue
    One call you in runway shows
    One call I'm sittin front row

    Love that Jimmy Cooks callback

  • Nov 8, 2022
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    quadra

    Man you know they just be talking lol

    I think this is where Drake spreading himself so thin and being so prolific hurts him.

    Liability off HN will be forgotten. Incredibly introspective
    Champagne poetry is going to be forgotten
    The Remorse is going to be forgotten
    Pipe Down is going to be forgotten
    7AM
    Losses off DLDT

    You can not like the music, but to say that he's stagnant and regressing from a source material perspective is factually just not true. He's still giving the people real life type s*** that go beyond the club and trap slaps.

  • mov

    They still taking about that Drake needs to be more mature lmao

    And it's not even accurate.

    Like I said, not liking the music is one thing.

    But to say it isn't there is simply not true.

  • Nov 8, 2022
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    Ideekay

    Music is much broader than being hype/serious. Drake does things Kendrick never has done and probably never will and vice versa. They're just different artists. Also just because Drake is not conscious or political, doesn't mean the music doesn't have any emotional impact. And to suddenly expect it from him feels unfair. I love both of them for different reasons.

    Like @2words said "Look What You've Done" hits home for me also lots of his songs are my go-tos when I happen to feel heartbroken or something. S*** lowkey helped me survive my teenage years.

    Expecting a specific type of album from an artist, just because you're in a different position and mindset in life feels unfair too. Would I like him to hear his "matured and settled" outlook on life on albums? Sure. But if it's not going to happen then so be it, sometimes I will feel it, sometimes I will not that's life. At least I still got Take Care and Nothing Was The Same that are tied to my teenage memories and I can still listen to them and feel what I felt back then.

    I’m not disagreeing with anything you said here.

    My point was just that, as his career has progressed, he’s gotten less and less introspective and emotionally deep with each project he releases.

    There are still moments here and there, but it used to be one of the main factors of his music. That’s not so much the case anymore.

    It’s not necessarily a good or a bad thing, just an observation

  • Nov 8, 2022
    mov

    They still taking about that Drake needs to be more mature lmao

    This isn’t the argument at all. No one’s saying he ā€œneeds to beā€ anything. It’s just an observation

  • Nov 8, 2022
    kotaaa

    alright, n95, humble, dna, all the stars, btch dont kill my vibe, loyalty etc.

    kendrick def has more made more fun/hit type of songs than drake has made deep/thought-provoking songs so if anything IMO kdot is closer to doing both.

    no one cares bro

    the assignment for this tape with 21 wasnt to get pretentious kdot stans

    no disrespect

  • Nov 8, 2022
    shaleirose

    Yeah this is why it’s baffling to me. It seems like he’s gotten more immature as time has progressed, I’ve never seen that with an artist before.

    Usually the older an artist gets, the more serious the themes in their music becomes.

    And it’s not that he’s the type of artist who separates his personal growth from his music because that’s the exact opposite of who Drake is as an artist; he’s said himself his music is like updates on his life

    i think its bc he had to seem beyond his years in the beginning to be interesting or captivating but now that hes already accomplished everything hes gotten lazy with his song writing.

    even when hes gone through massive moments in his life in the past 4-5 years, hes barely made any music abt it. i dont think hes getting more immature, i just think he matured early for his age and then never matured anymore.

    drakes like the former gifted kid

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    "I'm the first evеr antisocial socialite"

  • Nov 8, 2022
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    BrickellBayside

    I think this is where Drake spreading himself so thin and being so prolific hurts him.

    Liability off HN will be forgotten. Incredibly introspective
    Champagne poetry is going to be forgotten
    The Remorse is going to be forgotten
    Pipe Down is going to be forgotten
    7AM
    Losses off DLDT

    You can not like the music, but to say that he's stagnant and regressing from a source material perspective is factually just not true. He's still giving the people real life type s*** that go beyond the club and trap slaps.

    Tbh honest it’ll only hurt him in this silly online debates. His work put in gonna reap all the benefits and legacy when people look back.

  • Nov 8, 2022
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    BrickellBayside

    I think this is where Drake spreading himself so thin and being so prolific hurts him.

    Liability off HN will be forgotten. Incredibly introspective
    Champagne poetry is going to be forgotten
    The Remorse is going to be forgotten
    Pipe Down is going to be forgotten
    7AM
    Losses off DLDT

    You can not like the music, but to say that he's stagnant and regressing from a source material perspective is factually just not true. He's still giving the people real life type s*** that go beyond the club and trap slaps.

    All I’m saying is, it’s less common and more shallow than it used to be from him. You named 7 songs from 3 different projects, I can name 7 songs from one of his older albums that are more introspective with more emotional depth than most of those.

    No one’s saying it’s bad, it’s just an observation

  • Nov 8, 2022
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    mov

    They still taking about that Drake needs to be more mature lmao

    I guess people were wanting Drake to drop his 4:44 eventually. They really want Drake to drop all his hoes and get into his dad raps lol