yea most of these are, but i was just saying how 2020 versions of tracks, even idea-wise are very different.

How do u know?

Ok, thank you, that sounds pretty awesome

Cuz all the reference tracks leaked years ago ….. ?

Oh never listened to them

He complain they were dropping it without DaBaby clearance but then they got it so it dropped (doesn't seem he realised it had dababy on)

If it was gonna drop the week after he Def would have been working on it up until that week imo

3 hours long.

Tracklist:

more maximalist sound.
mumble
had a love story.

Zack gotta be playing a character

But some sentiments in the article are true

Like what really was the point of multiple songs with multiple versions and multiple artists

I liked donda but this was his worst application of artist cohesion, Especially compared how he’s utilized collaboration in the past. It felt like he wanted people for the sake of it

gonna f***ing cry

Crazy mf still lost

You think so? Really what I just remember is lyrics and mixes getting refined for the most part. 40+ days later to get the final album is actually a lot of time especially for Kanye. A lot of musicians make changes up to the drop. Drake CLB even has refinements like that. Hence some of the lyrics referencing new Ye stuff and it coming at 2 am est.

rundgren is a legend, this wouldn't be the first time he has difficulty getting along with famous collaborators

It also doesn't help that tracks were added after the release. Makes it seem rushed to the point of not even being finished on release. Whether or not any of that actually makes it rushed, idk. I'm just speaking to the optics

it was heavily unfinished. it was either cutting back a lot of the songs or not finishing the album in time. even though i desire to hear most of this stuff, which i won't get to, I'm not sad that we got the released version in the state it released in.

no, it was a masterpiece that wasn't rushed nor did it have any mistakes. everything was intentional and perfect.

shoutout rick rubin

I thought I saw somewhere that even on LP1 the performance list included a lot of what came in the following LPs, it’s just that he cut it short.

thats facts the final product is a classic as is

need the donda - rick rubin edit

Had to google definition of dilettante

Todd Rundgren worked on the album?

We need the full credits for this thing

lol we’re gonna hear a lot of stories bc obviously Kanye was off the meds and offended some ppl during this process

If anything altering the music even after release shows how dedicated Ye is to presenting his vision
The drake argument is one thing but at least be consistent in how you attack the album

Sums it up tbh. The potential of this album is out of this world. On par with any of his classics.

But I agree with this dude. It was raw unprocessed unfinished. Lots of junk in there.
It’s amazing that even the demo is f***ing hard.