@Valentine
And I ask you this, if sitting in someone’s lap isn’t sexual in nature or something people do “casually” if your gf/wife saw you at work with a girl sitting in your lap would she be cool with that? Or would you even not feel like a total idiot trying to explain that it isnt like that?
P*** director has no valid reason to ask a 19 year old Beyonce to sit on his lap during the call
Disgusting that you're trying to brush this off and rationalise it tbh
im not even surprised valentina is defending this
"You're shaking" is typical creep talk/a power play. No way you watch that and think it's normal
Lol I've never heard of sitting on a platonic males lap being a sign of comfort
S*** if one of my female friends sat on my lap I'm asking myself if she tryna f*** or not
Maybe I have issues though and need to get my mind out the gutter
Lol I've never heard of sitting on a platonic males lap being a sign of comfort
S*** if one of my female friends sat on my lap I'm asking myself if she tryna f*** or not
Maybe I have issues though and need to get my mind out the gutter
you niggas don’t have sisters or a big group of girl friends that’s comfortable around you and that’s okay man lol. women sit on laps of men they are comfortable around if ain’t no other seats available and everyone just chilling talking in a group, especially cause not every interaction is sexual or has to be interpreted and presented that way in still frames 20+ years later from a 90 second meaningless video
@Valentine
And I ask you this, if sitting in someone’s lap isn’t sexual in nature or something people do “casually” if your gf/wife saw you at work with a girl sitting in your lap would she be cool with that? Or would you even not feel like a total idiot trying to explain that it isnt like that?
if me and the girl were friends and my wife was her friend and we were all sitting in a group, I don’t think it would be in any way awkward to tell my wife “all the seats were taken and she needed somewhere to sit and not be left out the conversation” and go about our hangout with our friends, wtf do you niggas brains be on with your homies and sisters
live life and realize not every interaction between a man and woman has to be some man vs woman sexual debate around s*** that happens every day when hanging out in large groups of friends like casually sitting on an open lap (which is basically your knee, she not cuddled up on me) of a friend since there aren’t any chairs
if me and the girl were friends and my wife was her friend and we were all sitting in a group, I don’t think it would be in any way awkward to tell my wife “all the seats were taken and she needed somewhere to sit and not be left out the conversation” and go about our hangout with our friends, wtf do you niggas brains be on with your homies and sisters
live life and realize not every interaction between a man and woman has to be some man vs woman sexual debate around s*** that happens every day when hanging out in large groups of friends like casually sitting on an open lap (which is basically your knee, she not cuddled up on me) of a friend since there aren’t any chairs
Yea okay
if you’re not trolling you genuinely live in a different plane of reality than me & most of the thread.
I have sisters and am in a group of friends with mostly girls, never have they sat on my lap or have I witnessed them do that with someone they’re not physically involved with.
And in the video there’s seats all over, that s*** is such a lame excuse lmao
Yea okay
if you’re not trolling you genuinely live in a different plane of reality than me & most of the thread.
I have sisters and am in a group of friends with mostly girls, never have they sat on my lap or have I witnessed them do that with someone they’re not physically involved with.
And in the video there’s seats all over, that s*** is such a lame excuse lmao
I live in this world’s reality man. I’ve had girls sit on my lap to check something on their phone, to join in a conversation, to eat their food cause all the seats at the table taken and I’m done eating but don’t want to get up to miss the conversation, cause they’re to drunk and are bent over throwing up as you keeping their hair out their face, in the car with no more backseat space, when the section too full and we running out of chairs and she wants to smoke hookah
and guess what? it was all platonic and non-sexual and we went about our lives and hanging out with our group of friends since we are all comfortable around each other. All this sexual over a***yzing over a 90 second clip. Geez man
I live in this world’s reality man. I’ve had girls sit on my lap to check something on their phone, to join in a conversation, to eat their food cause all the seats at the table taken and I’m done eating but don’t want to get up to miss the conversation, cause they’re to drunk and are bent over throwing up as you keeping their hair out their face, in the car with no more backseat space, when the section too full and we running out of chairs and she wants to smoke hookah
and guess what? it was all platonic and non-sexual and we went about our lives and hanging out with our group of friends since we are all comfortable around each other. All this sexual over a***yzing over a 90 second clip. Geez man
Once again this isn’t the circumstance in the video. They’re not in a packed ass car, they’re not eating at a table where there’s limited seats. They’re in a studio calling someone with open seats everywhere.
A man that isn’t a creep is saying “here take the seat, I can stand.” Rather than putting them in that weird ass situation.
You’re also ignoring the elephant in the room of the age gap
YOU AT 50-60 YEARS OLD ARE NOT HAVING A 19 YEAR OLD SIT IN YOUR LAP WITHOUT LOOKING LIKE A F***ING WEIRDO
Once again this isn’t the circumstance in the video. They’re not in a packed ass car, they’re not eating at a table where there’s limited seats. They’re in a studio calling someone with open seats everywhere.
A man that isn’t a creep is saying “here take the seat, I can stand.” Rather than putting them in that weird ass situation.
You’re also ignoring the elephant in the room of the age gap
YOU AT 50-60 YEARS OLD ARE NOT HAVING A 19 YEAR OLD SIT IN YOUR LAP WITHOUT LOOKING LIKE A F***ING WEIRDO
all I see is a 90 second interaction between the most famous person in the world, the producer he called to be with Beyonce to work on a 9/11 charity song, and him tryna make her feel comfortable right before talking to the most famous person in the world about said charity song
I already told you this was a nothing burger when released 4 months ago when nobody cared until a twitter nigga got a hit tweet today at 8am. So you playing holier than thou does nothing for me cause you’re tryna be revisionist regarding a piece of media that was represented to you in a clickbait context to create an unnecessary conversation about an interaction that was about making a 9/11 charity song
It’s terrible media literacy and you niggas are becoming Facebook oldheads with the pearl clutching. it’s burnt tf out
all I see is a 90 second interaction between the most famous person in the world, the producer he called to be with Beyonce to work on a 9/11 charity song, and him tryna make her feel comfortable right before talking to the most famous person in the world about said charity song
I already told you this was a nothing burger when released 4 months ago when nobody cared until a twitter nigga got a hit tweet today at 8am. So you playing holier than thou does nothing for me cause you’re tryna be revisionist regarding a piece of media that was represented to you in a clickbait context to create an unnecessary conversation about an interaction that was about making a 9/11 charity song
It’s terrible media literacy and you niggas are becoming Facebook oldheads with the pearl clutching. it’s burnt tf out
I just saw the video today, it being released 4 months ago doesn’t change wtf we’re looking at.
You keep picking out irrelevant facts from the video, oh it’s Michael Jackson on the phone, oh it’s 90 seconds, oh the song was for charity.
You could show me this with no caption, no knowledge of who tf these people are and my first reaction would be “wow that guy is creepy as hell”
I just saw the video today, it being released 4 months ago doesn’t change wtf we’re looking at.
You keep picking out irrelevant facts from the video, oh it’s Michael Jackson on the phone, oh it’s 90 seconds, oh the song was for charity.
You could show me this with no caption, no knowledge of who tf these people are and my first reaction would be “wow that guy is creepy as hell”
‘No no you don’t get it
You don’t know any women so that’s why you don’t think this is ok 
I know lots of women and you don’t and that’s ok
You can’t react to something that came out a long time ago. If you find out about the Epstein files today by some chance you’re a boomer & pearl clutching if you react to them.’

Valentine tripping
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Valentine, would you be fine with some 50 year old man telling your 19 y/o daughter to sit on his lap & then grabbing her waist while she’s at work? Or would you just say ‘she feels comfortable and there’s nothing wrong with it’
…. I rest my case
‘No no you don’t get it
You don’t know any women so that’s why you don’t think this is ok 
I know lots of women and you don’t and that’s ok
You can’t react to something that came out a long time ago. If you find out about the Epstein files today by some chance you’re a boomer & pearl clutching if you react to them.’

Valentine tripping
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Valentine, would you be fine with some 50 year old man telling your 19 y/o daughter to sit on his lap & then grabbing her waist while she’s at work? Or would you just say ‘she feels comfortable and there’s nothing wrong with it’
…. I rest my case
Don't rest it yet. I have a good feeling this nigga about to tell you he would be ok with it and call YOU weird for seeing your daughter that way
you niggas don’t have sisters or a big group of girl friends that’s comfortable around you and that’s okay man lol. women sit on laps of men they are comfortable around if ain’t no other seats available and everyone just chilling talking in a group, especially cause not every interaction is sexual or has to be interpreted and presented that way in still frames 20+ years later from a 90 second meaningless video
This sounds lit though ngl. We've never had women that we aint f***ing be part of our circle like that unless they someone's wife or love interest
But still i can't imagine this dynamic and 99% sure every one of my boys would say what I'm sayingb right now
‘No no you don’t get it
You don’t know any women so that’s why you don’t think this is ok 
I know lots of women and you don’t and that’s ok
You can’t react to something that came out a long time ago. If you find out about the Epstein files today by some chance you’re a boomer & pearl clutching if you react to them.’

Valentine tripping
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Valentine, would you be fine with some 50 year old man telling your 19 y/o daughter to sit on his lap & then grabbing her waist while she’s at work? Or would you just say ‘she feels comfortable and there’s nothing wrong with it’
…. I rest my case
He didn’t grab her waist. she sat down, he got MJ ready to talk to her, he handed her the phone and on the next camera angle his arm ain’t even on the arm rest anymore
Jesus you niggas man. Terrible media literacy. Literally eating up the clickbait and slop topics over a 4 month old video
I was raised with four women by a mom led household and I’ve never had a sister do that nor have I ever seen/heard of a woman sitting on a man’s lap as anything other than sexual. I couldn’t imagine a wife or girlfriend being okay with a friend of hers sitting on her husband/boyfriend’s lap either
Not speaking to the video it could possibly be an innocent Santa type vibe but this discussion itt is nuts to say the least
I was raised with four women by a mom led household and I’ve never had a sister do that nor have I ever seen/heard of a woman sitting on a man’s lap as anything other than sexual. I couldn’t imagine a wife or girlfriend being okay with a friend of hers sitting on her husband/boyfriend’s lap either
Not speaking to the video it could possibly be an innocent Santa type vibe but this discussion itt is nuts to say the least
And that’s your household. Where I was raised, women are lot more comfortable around men they trust and don’t perceive every interaction between a man and woman as sexual as it does not have to be (such as bussing a whine to music, it’s all about just catching a vibe and dancing and moving on)
To each their own. Women aren’t a monolith. My household i grew up with 4 women also and that’s before I get to my 10+ sister friends and their friends when we’re all out or at a house party. I’ve seen enough to form these perspectives lol
‘No no you don’t get it
You don’t know any women so that’s why you don’t think this is ok 
I know lots of women and you don’t and that’s ok
You can’t react to something that came out a long time ago. If you find out about the Epstein files today by some chance you’re a boomer & pearl clutching if you react to them.’

Valentine tripping
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Valentine, would you be fine with some 50 year old man telling your 19 y/o daughter to sit on his lap & then grabbing her waist while she’s at work? Or would you just say ‘she feels comfortable and there’s nothing wrong with it’
…. I rest my case
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This nigga crazy
Brother I am crying
And that’s your household. Where I was raised, women are lot more comfortable around men they trust and don’t perceive every interaction between a man and woman as sexual as it does not have to be (such as bussing a whine to music, it’s all about just catching a vibe and dancing and moving on)
To each their own. Women aren’t a monolith. My household i grew up with 4 women also and that’s before I get to my 10+ sister friends and their friends when we’re all out or at a house party. I’ve seen enough to form these perspectives lol
Once again you’re not addressing the age gap or that they’re at work
You keep taking the action for what it is then throwing it in a context where it COULD be acceptable
He didn’t grab her waist. she sat down, he got MJ ready to talk to her, he handed her the phone and on the next camera angle his arm ain’t even on the arm rest anymore
Jesus you niggas man. Terrible media literacy. Literally eating up the clickbait and slop topics over a 4 month old video
I may have saw the hand on the waist thing incorrectly, my bad if so
You didn't answer my question nigga so regardless
I rest my case
& I'll add 'this 50 year old man pats his legs and tells her to sit on his lap, even though the call ends up on speakerphone'
all I see is a 90 second interaction between the most famous person in the world, the producer he called to be with Beyonce to work on a 9/11 charity song, and him tryna make her feel comfortable right before talking to the most famous person in the world about said charity song
I already told you this was a nothing burger when released 4 months ago when nobody cared until a twitter nigga got a hit tweet today at 8am. So you playing holier than thou does nothing for me cause you’re tryna be revisionist regarding a piece of media that was represented to you in a clickbait context to create an unnecessary conversation about an interaction that was about making a 9/11 charity song
It’s terrible media literacy and you niggas are becoming Facebook oldheads with the pearl clutching. it’s burnt tf out
Nah you wildin
“Tryna make her comfortable” is crazy 💀💀
Nigga counting up the amount of women he knows like it gives him authority on knowing how women feel when their personal space is invaded
Maybe he's not been privy to the countless moments where one person is away from the group and a women tells someone 'hey such and such was a bit too full on' / 'hey, is so & so always this touchy feely, I felt uncomfortable but didn't mention it'
The hard conversation is everything leading up to that video. Stuff that probably isn't on video. Stuff that made this feel like a more comfortable situation than it should be. They're all having a great time with a camera on because she is already a legal adult and a star in show business by that point.
Being flirty and bold and sexual and young maybe appearing naive to it is unfortunately the premise for a lot of pop music stardom and movie stardom. We really don't need a smoking gun to talk about that. To say hey maybe child entertainment is spiritually corrupt as a concept. It's much bigger than this situation. That's how you talk about it without it being a "hit piece".
Nigga counting up the amount of women he knows like it gives him authority on knowing how women feel when their personal space is invaded
Maybe he's not been privy to the countless moments where one person is away from the group and a women tells someone 'hey such and such was a bit too full on' / 'hey, is so & so always this touchy feely, I felt uncomfortable but didn't mention it'
I told niggas he posted that white woman like she was his Pokemon, he got weird boundaries and weirder logic