Shaffel most notably refers to Marc Shaffel, a producer known for his work with Michael Jackson, as well as an Israeli psy-trance record label and a musical track.
the thread title and the thoughts in op dont even make sense with the video in any logical way
if anything the oddest part is how close it seems beyonce is to sitting on that mans lap nothing that MJ is doing
Its crazy some ugly ass old fat white guy can walk around saying beyonce gave him a lap dance
Im sure he's one of many
the p*** industry can be a terrible place
but people work within it and make a living I don’t frown upon and this man worked on the gay side of that industry
you guys keep using that as an argument to win this discussion so I’m presenting the other side, it’s not being obtuse just pointing out that you guys maybe have never had a woman be socially comfortable around where not every physical interaction has to be interpreted as sexual
Like this nigga really doing screenshots of a 1 second lean back while she laughing
and you niggas are getting on me. how LAME and not around girls who are comfortable around you do you gotta be to see a woman do something women do like sitting down on a friends lap laughing or in this instance a 90 second interaction to take a phone call and only a***yze it from a sexual eye
you niggas don’t go to house parties/kickbacks and it shows smdh. Miss me with this holier than thou bullshit
All your arguments can’t boil down to “you don’t get women” gang
you niggas don’t have sisters or a big group of girl friends that’s comfortable around you and that’s okay man lol. women sit on laps of men they are comfortable around if ain’t no other seats available and everyone just chilling talking in a group, especially cause not every interaction is sexual or has to be interpreted and presented that way in still frames 20+ years later from a 90 second meaningless video
LOIAFOEWJOFJW HE KEPT DIGGING
Valentine went out defending 19 year old beyonce sitting on a 50 year old lap with the defense of "he is in gay p***"
going out as a weirdo and saying "you dont know enough women"
People that were oh so anti pedophile and grooming 2024 are like "lets hear out the 50 year old gay p*** actor who had beyonce sitting on his lap "
What valentine get banned for? Lmaoo he wasn’t saying nothing crazy 💀💀
Guessing it had to do with this thread. Maybe he just removed his own avy who knows. What he is saying a bit weird. No matter how many women you know or sisters or mother. Saying that people cant feel its unnecessary for a 19 year old to be sitting on a50 year old mans lap under the guise of "he gay". Its like just let people call it weird for the times knowing she dealt with much weirder predatory men and let it be . Rather than say "you just dont know women "
What valentine get banned for? Lmaoo he wasn’t saying nothing crazy 💀💀
Unwarranted if isolated to this thread alone
Unwarranted if isolated to this thread alone
he will likely be back and was likely more than this thread. This thread just what stood out to me
he will likely be back and was likely more than this thread. This thread just what stood out to me
Mods doing

Mods doing
!https://youtu.be/yUqr6R8r_LM?si=y0mbwCiK__LUNlOcHe probably took his own avy off. Said something wild in another thread or is just chilling. Nothing he said here was ban worthy he was just doing his devils advocate s*** to people having a normal concern in an argument that didnt need to happen. No ones saying the man is the devil just that its odd and unnecessary be him gay or straight didnt need multiple page discussion.
If people can act like Drake is the spawn of satan for having young women friends they wouldnt make excuses if a woman sat on his lap so dont make excuses for this random ass man