No, where is your proof that it was a determining factor in dems losing seats

OP's replacement slogan is "I believe we do need to have police reform (demilitarization, end qualified immunity, decriminalize d**** and s***work, sending mental health & social workers)"

“Reform the police”

I’m not doing this

So you have no a***ysis

where is the proof it turned voters away

Sell defund the police to rural farmers in Iowa

Until than, good luck with that rhetoric

As usual, liberals living in complete fantasy land trying to blame everything on "bernie bros" because they support the most incompetent party in politics lmao. No a***ysis just throwing s*** at the wall and hoping it sticks

Okay so you want to replace a specific, material critique with something vague that they say they're doing constantly. Gotcha

This why progressives have to realize they can’t run the same election strategy in swing states

We would not have won in Georgia or Arizona if Kelly warnock and osoff supported defund the police, 100%

Suburban White Boys itt yelling defund the police

Latching onto that slogan has created a lot of negative connotations for people. I agree it could’ve been worded better IMO

Yeah not reading s*** from someone who supplied weapons and innocent ass people pointlessly lost their lives

You are the only one here who centers their politics around winning elections every 2-4 years while nothing materially changes

that wasnt what i was arguin. u said moderate whites wouldn't suddenly support the ideas if the slogan was changed; i was arguing that it wouldn't be sudden but a phrase that's much more intuitively understandable will be more inviting to those who wouldn't reject the ideas but do reject the slogan and turn themselves away from trying to understand the ideas behind the slogan due to its surface-interpretation

How else do we make change outside of electing people with the policies we suppport

Stop your both sides crap, we live in a two party system

there is not much room for confusion with "defund the police" beyond stupid liberal institutions intentionally making it confusing. maybe if these news networks and democrats actually took the time to explain the policy to their base instead of pretending they support the idea while actually not then it wouldn't be as divisive as you claim, albeit with no proof of its divisiveness.

Not through elections, thats for sure. but hey biden has passed one actual bill in like 5 months lmao, big time change there.

Jesus f*** reactionary leftists are sometimes as damaging as fascists

you are now using terms that you have no idea what they mean

Are you hoping for a violent Revolution/civil war??

lmao at the word "hoping"

but revolution or the threat of revolution is indeed just about the only way one gets meaningful change.

Yes dude has openly called for a violent revolution in the past lmao

You’re f***ing insane

You’re a Tankie for gods sake

Go to venuzela or North Korea to see what communism is

lmao yup, here it is, liberal brain rot in all its glory