In Cali they're testing blood samples from December and finding COVID-19 antibodies.
This s*** went through our community for 3 months masked by flu season before testing really started up in earnest. Social distancing is helping a great deal, and the lockdown should keep going at least another month, but our state government really needs to come up with a plan for a long term approach if coronavirus has been in the state for 4 months and we haven't experienced a major surge in cases.
People keep saying that the lockdown states will just experience a peak later, but it's not like there wasn't an opportunity for our population to be exposed. There was a 3 month window, at least.
In Cali they're testing blood samples from December and finding COVID-19 antibodies.
This s*** went through our community for 3 months masked by flu season before testing really started up in earnest. Social distancing is helping a great deal, and the lockdown should keep going at least another month, but our state government really needs to come up with a plan for a long term approach if coronavirus has been in the state for 4 months and we haven't experienced a major surge in cases.
People keep saying that the lockdown states will just experience a peak later, but it's not like there wasn't an opportunity for our population to be exposed. There was a 3 month window, at least.
Link?
Link?
Paywall link so I'll just quote this part:
"'The virus was freewheeling in our community and probably has been here for quite some time,” Dr. Jeff Smith, a physician who is the chief executive of Santa Clara County government, told county leaders in a recent briefing.
How long? A study out of Stanford suggests a dramatic viral surge in February.
But Smith on Friday said data collected by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, local health departments and others suggest it was “a lot longer than we first believed” — most likely since “back in December.”
“This wasn’t recognized because we were having a severe flu season,” Smith said in an interview. “Symptoms are very much like the flu. If you got a mild case of COVID, you didn’t really notice. You didn’t even go to the doctor. The doctor maybe didn’t even do it because they presumed it was the flu.”
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Researchers still unsure how long the virus lurked are now turning to blood banks and other repositories to see if lingering antibodies can show them what was missed. A study funded by the National Institutes of Health is looking for virus antibodies in samples from blood banks in Los Angeles, San Francisco and four other cities across the country."
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-11/bay-area-coronavirus-deaths-signs-of-earlier-spread-california?_amp=true
Paywall link so I'll just quote this part:
"'The virus was freewheeling in our community and probably has been here for quite some time,” Dr. Jeff Smith, a physician who is the chief executive of Santa Clara County government, told county leaders in a recent briefing.
How long? A study out of Stanford suggests a dramatic viral surge in February.
But Smith on Friday said data collected by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, local health departments and others suggest it was “a lot longer than we first believed” — most likely since “back in December.”
“This wasn’t recognized because we were having a severe flu season,” Smith said in an interview. “Symptoms are very much like the flu. If you got a mild case of COVID, you didn’t really notice. You didn’t even go to the doctor. The doctor maybe didn’t even do it because they presumed it was the flu.”
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Researchers still unsure how long the virus lurked are now turning to blood banks and other repositories to see if lingering antibodies can show them what was missed. A study funded by the National Institutes of Health is looking for virus antibodies in samples from blood banks in Los Angeles, San Francisco and four other cities across the country."
Interesting, def gonna follow this one
Interesting, def gonna follow this one
Definitely adds fuel to the fire for the "China lied people died" crew
The lockdown has been extended to May 15 and I think that's fair. There are states pushing theirs out to June already (look at Virginia), so it says a lot that we're being slightly more optimistic.
I'm concerned about how restless people could get after that though, especially with no rent freeze.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-11/bay-area-coronavirus-deaths-signs-of-earlier-spread-california?_amp=true
Paywall link so I'll just quote this part:
"'The virus was freewheeling in our community and probably has been here for quite some time,” Dr. Jeff Smith, a physician who is the chief executive of Santa Clara County government, told county leaders in a recent briefing.
How long? A study out of Stanford suggests a dramatic viral surge in February.
But Smith on Friday said data collected by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, local health departments and others suggest it was “a lot longer than we first believed” — most likely since “back in December.”
“This wasn’t recognized because we were having a severe flu season,” Smith said in an interview. “Symptoms are very much like the flu. If you got a mild case of COVID, you didn’t really notice. You didn’t even go to the doctor. The doctor maybe didn’t even do it because they presumed it was the flu.”
...
Researchers still unsure how long the virus lurked are now turning to blood banks and other repositories to see if lingering antibodies can show them what was missed. A study funded by the National Institutes of Health is looking for virus antibodies in samples from blood banks in Los Angeles, San Francisco and four other cities across the country."
A had a pretty bad flu the beginning of the year and then got sick again from my friend in February.
shiet what if i had rona
this still going on
A had a pretty bad flu the beginning of the year and then got sick again from my friend in February.
shiet what if i had rona
A friend and I both got sick with lasting cough and fatigue mid-February too :
A friend and I both got sick with lasting cough and fatigue mid-February too :
Oh hell yh im done with quarantining then
IT dudes won easiest job for home office
as someone studying IT, comp sci grads are the actual smart guys who understand math
:skinnerpathetic:
Shiet i was gonna give u one to hold when i got my trumpbucks
Oh hell yh im done with quarantining then
Lmao nahhh gotta assume I didn't have it. But if an antibody test was made available I would def want to take it
Lmao nahhh gotta assume I didn't have it. But if an antibody test was made available I would def want to take it
Yeah i need them tests if they come. Would be quite interested to see my results cuz i hadn't got that sick in years.
Yeah i need them tests if they come. Would be quite interested to see my results cuz i hadn't got that sick in years.
me neither fr tho. I remember being too fatigued to play ping pong with my friend. reminded me of when i had mono
as someone studying IT, comp sci grads are the actual smart guys who understand math
ehh most programmers don't really know that much. you have to take up to lin alg for most cs programs, but don't really use it at all in day to day programming
Yeah i need them tests if they come. Would be quite interested to see my results cuz i hadn't got that sick in years.
Thing is, FEMA is estimating that something like 35% of Americans that get infected won't be sick enough to get tested or seek any kind of care, even if they know what coronavirus is. I've seen anywhere from 15% (in Germany) to 50% (in Iceland) of cases estimated as asymptomatic.
So yeah, there's really no telling at all whether you have COVID-19 unless you get tested. If you have a really low level exposure to coronavirus (more likely during social distancing), your body can clean it out and develop antibodies without you getting really sick.
What needs to happen is some kind of home antibody test that is sent to a central bank and used to determine who is immune and who isn't so they can go back to work. This is scary as s*** in its implications, but that's where we're at now.
Thing is, FEMA is estimating that something like 35% of Americans that get infected won't be sick enough to get tested or seek any kind of care, even if they know what coronavirus is. I've seen anywhere from 15% (in Germany) to 50% (in Iceland) of cases estimated as asymptomatic.
So yeah, there's really no telling at all whether you have COVID-19 unless you get tested. If you have a really low level exposure to coronavirus (more likely during social distancing), your body can clean it out and develop antibodies without you getting really sick.
What needs to happen is some kind of home antibody test that is sent to a central bank and used to determine who is immune and who isn't so they can go back to work. This is scary as s*** in its implications, but that's where we're at now.
This gets crazier by they day man.