Jul 27
Mark Moschinoit’s just the little things with nolan for me. it’s not bad at all, it’s a good movie that i didn’t like.
my entire critique summed up with in the title card it says in a time of “apparent magic” and then meets a cyclops, and has all of his men turned into pigs, so is it magic or not? how can it apparently be magic when he sits and experiences the magic he talks to dead people?
why is that a problem?
it's saying that magic is real while also implying it may manifest in ways more grounded/real than what most of us watching would immediately assume from the term "magic". I don't see that as invalidating of anything present in the poem or the movie. There's still a cyclops, witches, and zombies
Jul 27·2 repliesAnybody seen this in 4dx? How was it?
- Jul 27
ragedsycokillerJapan don't give af about Odyssey. Chiikawa is holding down iMax screens over there.
Usagi my goat
- Jul 27https://twitter.com/yuanyi_z/status/2081728730242719798ThomFork
I think it's fair she does not f*** with Nolan's vision since she is a stickler for accuracy with the original poem.
- Jul 27·2 repliesMark Moschino
i really wanted to like this, but it’s very sterile/clinical and the editing is for tiktok brain
Tik tok brain is crazy when he's been editing like this for a long time.
- Jul 27
KalmantaIt hasn’t been released there yet, same with China and South Korea.
Yeah cause this movie blocked it from all of their iMax screens lol. It's a light joke
- Jul 27ragedsycokiller
Tik tok brain is crazy when he's been editing like this for a long time.
man's ahead of his time
- Jul 27·1 replyragedsycokiller
Tik tok brain is crazy when he's been editing like this for a long time.
give me a shot that lasts more than 90 seconds pls :)
- Jul 27·2 repliesMark Moschino
give me a shot that lasts more than 90 seconds pls :)
The IMAX camera they're shooting with can only film a single take for 2-3 minutes, so in the grand scheme of things, that's more difficult than you'd think when people are saying dialogue and you want the best possible lines/takes.
Dunkirk has longer takes than you might think for a movie like that, but people also aren't talking for most of that movie, so that's a huge factor in editing that they don't have to worry about at all when it came to the IMAX footage
Jul 27Mark Moschinoit’s just the little things with nolan for me. it’s not bad at all, it’s a good movie that i didn’t like.
my entire critique summed up with in the title card it says in a time of “apparent magic” and then meets a cyclops, and has all of his men turned into pigs, so is it magic or not? how can it apparently be magic when he sits and experiences the magic he talks to dead people?
It's low-fantasy/grounded/magical realism, where the magic is treated like the mundane.
- Jul 27·1 reply
Major Insiderhis editing style is also heavily influenced by Tony Scott and Oliver Stone, so calling it "tik-tok brain" just threw me off
Yeah there's definitely Tony Scott-isms you can trace fasho
- Jul 27·1 replyTsunamiPapi
Anybody seen this in 4dx? How was it?
They piped in a bacon scent during the Circe scene
- Jul 27·1 replyThomFork
The IMAX camera they're shooting with can only film a single take for 2-3 minutes, so in the grand scheme of things, that's more difficult than you'd think when people are saying dialogue and you want the best possible lines/takes.
Dunkirk has longer takes than you might think for a movie like that, but people also aren't talking for most of that movie, so that's a huge factor in editing that they don't have to worry about at all when it came to the IMAX footage
does Dunkirk have longer takes? I recall reading a post from a film scholar saying that the average shot lasts just over 3 seconds.
- Jul 27Major Insider
does Dunkirk have longer takes? I recall reading a post from a film scholar saying that the average shot lasts just over 3 seconds.
i mean I can think of a handful of long takes off the top of my head, but that doesn't mean the whole movie's like that. It's pretty rapidly edited still because that's Nolan's style. But because people aren't talking, I think it's not nearly as jarring. And they balance them out with periodic longer 1 min shots or so
there's one of D'Arcy walking on the beach, there's one of them catching up to the Highlanders, this scene, etc:
- Jul 27CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN
Yeah there's definitely Tony Scott-isms you can trace fasho
Nolan's done a whole podcast on BBC Radio about how much he loves Tony and Ridley Scott haha
- Jul 27CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN
They piped in a bacon scent during the Circe scene
Fascinating
- Jul 27·1 replyMajor Insider
his editing style is also heavily influenced by Tony Scott and Oliver Stone, so calling it "tik-tok brain" just threw me off
i liked his work better when he was still doing a ton of michael mann !
- Jul 27ThomFork
The IMAX camera they're shooting with can only film a single take for 2-3 minutes, so in the grand scheme of things, that's more difficult than you'd think when people are saying dialogue and you want the best possible lines/takes.
Dunkirk has longer takes than you might think for a movie like that, but people also aren't talking for most of that movie, so that's a huge factor in editing that they don't have to worry about at all when it came to the IMAX footage
i mean my first post said it's a good movie that i just didn't like, but to engage more. I would offer that if the technology is hindering the performance of the actors than your mileage may vary. Every critique of sterility i've seen i feel is cogent.
I hear the framing of "well the film isn't trying to do that" but at the same time it's okay for me to not enjoy it because of that
Jul 27i think the best small detail is the suitors starting to bend the knee mid massacre. bodies started losing strength from the aura and s***
- Jul 27·3 repliesMark Moschino
i liked his work better when he was still doing a ton of michael mann !
but when was that? Dunkirk has a average shot length of 3.3 seconds, while Inception's is 3.1 seconds. This chart that was created last year shows that his average shot length tends to fall within this range
even Michael Mann was doing very quick edits. just rewatch the opening robbery scene in Heat and just count how many edits there are and how fast it is
- Jul 27·editedMajor Insider
but when was that? Dunkirk has a average shot length of 3.3 seconds, while Inception's is 3.1 seconds. This chart that was created last year shows that his average shot length tends to fall within this range
even Michael Mann was doing very quick edits. just rewatch the opening robbery scene in Heat and just count how many edits there are and how fast it is
i hear you but that robbery is balanced with many beautiful long takes of los angeles. Like most of heat is long sequences except for selected action set pieces
- Jul 27·1 replyMajor Insider
but when was that? Dunkirk has a average shot length of 3.3 seconds, while Inception's is 3.1 seconds. This chart that was created last year shows that his average shot length tends to fall within this range
even Michael Mann was doing very quick edits. just rewatch the opening robbery scene in Heat and just count how many edits there are and how fast it is
do i need to repeat that it's a good movie, just that i didn't like it again? I'm not really sure what we're even talking about anymore?
- Jul 27Major Insider
but when was that? Dunkirk has a average shot length of 3.3 seconds, while Inception's is 3.1 seconds. This chart that was created last year shows that his average shot length tends to fall within this range
even Michael Mann was doing very quick edits. just rewatch the opening robbery scene in Heat and just count how many edits there are and how fast it is
there's no rules to any of this thankfully
- Jul 27·1 replyMark Moschino
do i need to repeat that it's a good movie, just that i didn't like it again? I'm not really sure what we're even talking about anymore?
i made a response about your comments on the editing, which you responded, so im genuinely not sure what's so confusing here?
i mean cool if you don't like. i never said or even implied that it's a bad thing that you didn't like it.