deleteduser579

2y

see that’s just disgusting man

bro rode on the Detroit wave and then just completely stopped

it’s no diff than what Post Malone eventually did, he slowly weaned himself off from making hip-hop and he pivoted to being a full on country nigga, that interview where he basically s*** on hip-hop and people really tried to give him the benefit of the doubt is so insane in retrospect

hell even Miley had a little hip-hop phase

Shampoo Bracelets

2y

I think it’s a bunch of bullshit and to claim that the biggest rapper of the past 15 years has been leeching off other artists is just absurd

It’s obviously beneficial for all artists involved, we aren’t gonna go down the line of artists who were bubbling then got Drake support and then immediately capitalized on it and took off (Kendrick included)

Also the focus on Atlanta is weird. Atlanta has been the center of hip hop in the 2010s which lines up with drakes rise to the top. It only makes sense that he’s collaborated with a ton of ATL rappers. If it was another area producing the most rappers Drake would just collab with them instead. It’s not like he hasn’t been collaborating with artists from every city and even from across the globe.

Osage_

2y

I think the whole hijacking up n coming artist came around the time Ilovemakonnen came out

deleteduser579

2y

yeah, the entire point is that if Aquinas adopted Greek mannerisms and cultural aspects of it as if he was from there, he would be looked at as a weirdo, that’s the entire point

there’s also a clear distinction between mimicking your influences in which you eventually develop your own style v. acting like your influencers to the point you’re talking like them, dressing like them, and acting like you’re from wherever they’re from

it’s whatever though cause we’ll just go in a circle

Water Giver

2y

Its just Kendrick continued point from Euphoria that Drake is not the same person that he was when they were cool back on TC to NWTS.

One of the 3 major points of Kendrick in all his disses that started on Euphoria is that Drake has been acting more and more stereotypically American black as the years go on when that is not who he is nor does he have any bases in it. And that Drake is a completely different person now than back then.

Such as his Canada lines, how many features till you feel like you black enough line, you have to adapt to America to get big etc.

Idiots think its colorism bars just like Drakes dumbass who also missed the point of that and multiple other songs/lines, but its deeper and its not about him being mixed & its clear as day, especially on Euphoria & Not Like Us (which the title of NLU is even on that subject, hes literally not like us while trying so hard to be like us).

Yes Drake collabing with these artists does help them out to whatever degree, BUT people forget it ALSO HELPS DRAKE as well. It got Drake in more clubs, got Drake in the "streets" when street niggas used to hate Drake the most, changed Drakes soft & "Drake the type of nigga" image & made him more popular with black people in general.

And yes, collabing with artists outside your element isnt a bad thing in itself, but when YOU start pretending thst youre also of that same element as the artists youre collabing with just because youre around them, thats when it gets fishy. And we would and do clown literally everyone else that does that. Such as Post Malone, the random white kid that pops up every few years pretending to be drill, Tecca etc.

There is a clear difference of Drake after Nothing Was the Same, nothing was literally not the same afterwards, and thats one of Kendrick's point. And Kendrick futher point is that he let it get to his head to where he thinks he is actually like those street artists. Pump faking & a poser.

You (Drake) become more and more "American black" & you become more and more of a sicko as the years go on which this is not who you were at all when I knew you.

And again, he gives the most examples in Euphoria & Not Like Us.

Drake is not like us, but he is trying so damn hard to be like us. And it weird and pathetic. Just be you.

And theres multiple examples as well even outside Kendrick. Such as the Wayne call interview when he first signed him "keep it Canadian", to Drake living in a upper middle class neighborhood and being a literal actor, Drake being more for the ladies & downbad guys but now its about guns and mob life etc.

Thats what the "angle" is about. And it started on Euphoria. And goes into the point of Kendrick saying youre not true to yourself, & deeper than just that, you are also lost in the sauce way too much.

Drake, for years now, is trying very hard "to be down".

Shampoo Bracelets

2y

They been saying s*** like that for a minute like any artist coming up wouldn’t JUMP at a Drake feature or collab

I personally think it’s dope af that the biggest rapper in the game be collaborating with up and coming artists and random people nobody ever even heard of. People act like every artist Drake collabed with they already knew. Well guess what not everyone as tapped in. Drake introduces these artists to millions.

I’d rather have it the way Drake goes about it than have him not collab with anyone or only give out features to the biggest artists like some of these lame ass rappers

WRU

2y

Mileys hip hop phase is still the most disgusting s*** to me. like it's actually wild to me how nobody even bats an eye at the whole edgy yolo persona she developed and then dropped after a while. that s*** was so manufactured and it says a lot considering all of these artists wear facades

rather late

2y

Lol kanye is just as bad as drake when it come to this!!!

Shampoo Bracelets

2y

They been saying s*** like that for a minute like any artist coming up wouldn’t JUMP at a Drake feature or collab

I personally think it’s dope af that the biggest rapper in the game be collaborating with up and coming artists and random people nobody ever even heard of. People act like every artist Drake collabed with they already knew. Well guess what not everyone as tapped in. Drake introduces these artists to millions.

I’d rather have it the way Drake goes about it than have him not collab with anyone or only give out features to the biggest artists like some of these lame ass rappers

Zack From The Six

2y

Two problems with this message:

1) ''validity behind the experiences he promotes and portrays''. This applies to 95% of the most listened to rappers. Most of them rap about stuff they haven't been doing.. But people only bring it up when it's Drake

2) ''leeching off regional artists''. So experimenting as an artist or showing love to a specific sound or artist is a problem now? Letting people eat by popularizing it is a bad thing now?

Zack From The Six

2y

Two problems with this message:

1) ''validity behind the experiences he promotes and portrays''. This applies to 95% of the most listened to rappers. Most of them rap about stuff they haven't been doing.. But people only bring it up when it's Drake

2) ''leeching off regional artists''. So experimenting as an artist or showing love to a specific sound or artist is a problem now? Letting people eat by popularizing it is a bad thing now?

Saintlightskin

2y

It’s the music BUSINESS and there was an exchange of value for those artists. I agree, it’s not on drake to keep you hot. He benefited and they benefited.

I do agree with him not being true to himself anymore . At the same time, f*** it it’s art and that’s what the market wants to hear

magnolias

2y

He’s really not whatsoever. Kanye just moves from idea to idea quickly. He’s never appropriated anyone’s culture in the ways that Drake has

Oblivion X

2y

Kanye just claimed he created future and thug's style of music lol

ryuH

2y

He gave Lil Baby and Migos they big breaks

His collaborations with Future, Thug and Chainz were mutual beneficial if anything more beneficial to the other party than Drake since he’s the bigger artist in each of these situations

It was a clever character assassination bar but like most things from this battle it’s not to be taken seriously unless you stan/hate either of them

insertcoolnamehere

2y

Lil baby and Migos were both gonna blow up regardless if Drake was around or not. Literally watched them 3 niggas blow up in high school lol.

Those drake songs arent even the first songs you’d put on from they catalog

ryuH

2y

All that imaginary “they was gonna blah blah blah” s*** is irrelevant lol

Yes, they had fanbases prior to Drake which is why Drake worked with them but the fact remains that when they collaborated with Drake they went from having a buzz to instant stardom

Migos pre versace remix was hot in Atlanta on some underground s*** and were mainly know from that Bando song and didn’t even get radio play like that, post Versace remix they became household names and a constant radio presence

Lil Baby pre Yes Indeed had a buzz, post Yes indeed he was one of the most popular rappers in the world

All this hypothetical talk is hoe s***. Talk about what actually happened

ryuH

2y

All that imaginary “they was gonna blah blah blah” s*** is irrelevant lol

Yes, they had fanbases prior to Drake which is why Drake worked with them but the fact remains that when they collaborated with Drake they went from having a buzz to instant stardom

Migos pre versace remix was hot in Atlanta on some underground s*** and were mainly know from that Bando song and didn’t even get radio play like that, post Versace remix they became household names and a constant radio presence

Lil Baby pre Yes Indeed had a buzz, post Yes indeed he was one of the most popular rappers in the world

All this hypothetical talk is hoe s***. Talk about what actually happened

deleteduser579

2y

“In the club, sipping purrp, with my shades on”

fever dream s***