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  • Nov 13, 2024
    ViciousAmbition
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    True, but it's not like Reagan and Bush are remembered fondly either. So like, why do we keep doing it?

    Raegan is remembered fondly by millions and Bush’s image has been rehabilitated

  • Nov 13, 2024

    I went to school with a girl named Raegan and she was named after Ronald

  • Nov 13, 2024

    Scratch a liberal quote gets truer and truer every day man dats all i can say

  • Nov 13, 2024
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    FREE

    See your keeping it to politicians but just socially there's been a real shift to the right like even without him and her.

    From how people feel about queer people to immigration to Black people it's just kind of all shifted another way and I feel like the reality is for you to win now that paradigm has to be accepted first and saying "well it was how she ran" isn't accepting that.

    Like her campaign was flawed as hell but the reality I feel like I'm not seeing acknowledged here is and I speak as someone in a swing state that went red is alot of these people were not just mad at the economy gang.

    Democrats were running a very right wing campaign as well, abortion aside. People saying they were too left just didn’t like the left at all

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    Nov 13, 2024
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    ViciousAmbition

    Well on one hand that's true. On the other hand, Republicans hate them both

    Yeah and that's kind of the heart of it that I haven't seen a real answer for is like how do you convince these people to get over their prejudices?.

  • Nov 13, 2024
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    Yeah like as a nigga on the ground floor that Bernie s*** is funny cause he's like "The working class felt abandoned" and I'm like gang the working class hates trans people.

    I mean, these prejudices would be meaningless if the Democrats were actually bringing concrete solutions to the material life of people, but they aren't doing that—and Sanders of all people should know that they have no intention of doing this. So in four years, people will realize that Trump, although sharing their prejudices, isn't helping, and they'll maybe vote Blue, and the cycle will continue...

  • Nov 13, 2024
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    internet buddy

    Democrats were running a very right wing campaign as well, abortion aside. People saying they were too left just didn’t like the left at all

    Only way someone thinks Kamala is far left is because she's black/brown and a woman and they think any representation at the top level is white male genocide

  • Nov 13, 2024
    ViciousAmbition

    True, but it's not like Reagan and Bush are remembered fondly either. So like, why do we keep doing it?

    Dems were begging for a Dubya dorsement

    newsweek.com/liz-cheney-calls-george-w-bush-endorse-kamala-harris-election-1979034

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    Nov 13, 2024
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    internet buddy

    Democrats were running a very right wing campaign as well, abortion aside. People saying they were too left just didn’t like the left at all

    Yeah like white women didn't even care about abortion so it's like if you can't get em to care about that over the economy then what does that say about how a candidate needs to run.

    You can be a rapist,racist and a felon and still win if you talk big on economy? What does that say about American citizens @spongebob

  • Nov 13, 2024
    ViciousAmbition

    True, but it's not like Reagan and Bush are remembered fondly either. So like, why do we keep doing it?

    The movie about Reagan made a serious profit

    boxofficemojo.com/release/rl4133781505

  • Olaf

    I mean, these prejudices would be meaningless if the Democrats were actually bringing concrete solutions to the material life of people, but they aren't doing that—and Sanders of all people should know that they have no intention of doing this. So in four years, people will realize that Trump, although sharing their prejudices, isn't helping, and they'll maybe vote Blue, and the cycle will continue...

    And thus the heart of the issue. I love Obama but he didn't have the heart to do the things he should have while he was in office.

    The difference between the dems and repubs is that if a Republican says they will do something, no matter how deplorable, you believe them. Dems have been all talk for awhile now.

  • Nov 13, 2024
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    spongebob

    Only way someone thinks Kamala is far left is because she's black/brown and a woman and they think any representation at the top level is white male genocide

    They look at her father being a Marxist then say she’s a Marxist

  • Nov 13, 2024
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    Yeah like white women didn't even care about abortion so it's like if you can't get em to care about that over the economy then what does that say about how a candidate needs to run.

    You can be a rapist,racist and a felon and still win if you talk big on economy? What does that say about American citizens @spongebob

    We're catastrophically stupid as a nation and it's still moving downward. And i say that with love its not out of hate, somehow

  • Nov 13, 2024
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    Yeah and that's kind of the heart of it that I haven't seen a real answer for is like how do you convince these people to get over their prejudices?.

    You address people’s material concerns that can only come from a party not dominated by the capitalist class

    Neither party has an answer so the realm of debate in politics is reduced to 4 or 5 largely trivial identity issues

    Housing
    Healthcare
    Education

    And no, it isnt going to come from the current system. I’m not sure if yall even listen because half the time yall argue with communists who say this over and over

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    Nov 13, 2024
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    Olaf

    I mean, these prejudices would be meaningless if the Democrats were actually bringing concrete solutions to the material life of people, but they aren't doing that—and Sanders of all people should know that they have no intention of doing this. So in four years, people will realize that Trump, although sharing their prejudices, isn't helping, and they'll maybe vote Blue, and the cycle will continue...

    But gang and I say this as a black person in the south it's been a many of niggas who died tryna convince these white people of their concrete interest.

    At one point do you begin to accept or even question that maybe their concrete interest is white supremacy and they'd rather be a slave in this system then equal in one that puts them with others ?

  • Nov 13, 2024
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    Yeah like white women didn't even care about abortion so it's like if you can't get em to care about that over the economy then what does that say about how a candidate needs to run.

    You can be a rapist,racist and a felon and still win if you talk big on economy? What does that say about American citizens @spongebob

    What do you think Harris should’ve done differently?

  • Nov 13, 2024
    internet buddy

    They look at her father being a Marxist then say she’s a Marxist

    Conflating marxism with liberalism is super easy for the right since people dont know how to f***ing read in this country

  • Nov 13, 2024
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    Mesaih

    I mean realistically genocide wasn't punished but in fact rewarded even more since Trump gives no f***s about Palestine lmfao

    Kamala Harris and Joe Biden murdered 200,000 Palestinians and counting over the last 12 months

    And you saying genocide was rewarded because the genociders lost?

    Can’t fix stupid

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    Nov 13, 2024
    internet buddy

    What do you think Harris should’ve done differently?

    I mean I really don't think there was a way to win this in alot of ways ngl for one running a woman was a mistake off rip so there's that

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    Yeah like white women didn't even care about abortion so it's like if you can't get em to care about that over the economy then what does that say about how a candidate needs to run.

    You can be a rapist,racist and a felon and still win if you talk big on economy? What does that say about American citizens @spongebob

    And what's crazy is all his rose tinted bullshit. I worked in lumber sales during covid, prices increased 300% across the board. Everything was higher, where was this golden age economy and how did I miss it?

  • Himothee

    Kamala Harris and Joe Biden murdered 200,000 Palestinians and counting over the last 12 months

    And you saying genocide was rewarded because the genociders lost?

    Can’t fix stupid

    So when Israel continues getting funding under Trump then what?

  • Nov 13, 2024
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    Himothee

    Kamala Harris and Joe Biden murdered 200,000 Palestinians and counting over the last 12 months

    And you saying genocide was rewarded because the genociders lost?

    Can’t fix stupid

    So what’s the plan after Trump takes office?

  • Nov 13, 2024
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    internet buddy

    So what’s the plan after Trump takes office?

    "Uhh..."

  • Nov 13, 2024
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    But gang and I say this as a black person in the south it's been a many of niggas who died tryna convince these white people of their concrete interest.

    At one point do you begin to accept or even question that maybe their concrete interest is white supremacy and they'd rather be a slave in this system then equal in one that puts them with others ?

    I agree. I'm from France and so-called "leftists" are trying to seduce white racists, as if the interests of white racists weren't racism. But the genuine socialists are accused of being Woke. It's a s***show. Our electoral systems are a scam, anyway. It's accentuating the absurdity.

  • Nov 13, 2024
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    ViciousAmbition

    "Uhh..."

    Nah, give them a chance bro