the black unity of George Floyd death were destroyed in 48 hrs after his death when negros forced black men vs black women against each other. Then nonane vs J Cole tomfoolery add to it.
Biggest recent example
i’ve never understood it, noname was always right
You realize there’s reason for (black) radical feminism right? And even Lgbtism? When you constantly put a group down or disregard them and have no respect for them what do you think is gonna happen? You think they’re just gonna take it?
radical feminism and radical LGBT is a white front with black folks...... black feminist in 2010 to now are completely different and you know that
We can. But that means straight black men must also be included into that discussion, meaning the harmful s*** that we do and say must also be brought to the light.
True unity cannot be attained until all of us can acknowledge where we're f***ing up at. List all the ways straight black women, straight black men, black people apart of the LGBTQ have been f***ing up.
We can all agree that straight black men have been getting shat on, but what we must acknowledge is the why? Why are we receiving this energy? These kinda feelings don't just come from nowhere. Once we get to the root of that then we can work to make changes.
My biggest issue is that black women and the black lbgt community are s***ting on black men for undeserved reasons.
Yes, black women are mainly abused and killed by black men. But guess what? White women and mainly abused and killed by white men. Hispanic women are primarily abused and killed by Hispanic men.
This notion that black men are the only group of men that assault women of their own race because we’re inherently evil is completely false. Black women primarily experience abuse from Black men, because all men are capable of abuse and human beings are more likely to interact with someone of their own race.
However, you never see White or Hispanic women/lbgt communities publicly s*** on their men in the same manner that black women and lbgt communities do.
The nigga just said we can be better than those groups you mentioned. Nobody said only black men do that
i’ve never understood it, noname was always right
no she wasn't
You don't call niggas out of they name to prove a point about they don't care about black people then use feminism to kill someone when they respond to your accusations. Literally moving the goalpost.
now your letting Thecacdrop do reviews on intersectionalsim and the relationship between black males and black females....niggas were lost that whole week
radical feminism and radical LGBT is a white front with black folks...... black feminist in 2010 to now are completely different and you know that
How are black feminists in 2010 different? Do you think they are equal to black men ?
lmaooo niggas saying black feminists and lgbt destroying the black community sound exactly like the white nationalists saying feminism destroyed western society
How are black feminists in 2010 different? Do you think they are equal to black men ?
Black feminism where not doing ad hominem. Wish death on black men. Out here wilding. The black feminism now seems like the archtype to call out black men and date a white men.
in many aspect black women are better than men. Economically, educationally, and more.
My biggest issue is that black women and the black lbgt community are s***ting on black men for undeserved reasons.
Yes, black women are mainly abused and killed by black men. But guess what? White women and mainly abused and killed by white men. Hispanic women are primarily abused and killed by Hispanic men.
This notion that black men are the only group of men that assault women of their own race because we’re inherently evil is completely false. Black women primarily experience abuse from Black men, because all men are capable of abuse and human beings are more likely to interact with someone of their own race.
However, you never see White or Hispanic women/lbgt communities publicly s*** on their men in the same manner that black women and lbgt communities do.
we dont need to compare ourselves to other groups, the issue is that black males are also the victims of those abuses at more comparative rates to their female counterparts than any other racialized group and the discourse on our gender relations makes no room for that in these discussions. anti-black violence is statistically bidirectional but you wouldnt know that looking at these debates
lmaooo niggas saying black feminists and lgbt destroying the black community sound exactly like the white nationalists saying feminism destroyed western society
why is that the LGBT can have an agenda with no real quarrels when comes to advancement
The feminism can have no real quarrels when comes to advancement
But as soon as black folks get in some type of unity (not even advancement) niggas fall apart bickering. Im not saying feminism and LGBT are evil, im saying their agenda nowadays are often the ones who cause discourse and un-unity among us.
i think it's a fact that black men have historically attempted to imitate white patriarchy to achieve greater assimilation out of the subordinate male statuse, and that this is a recipe for disaster because culturally we are different from whites and most pre-colonial African societies were matrilineal, however idk how yall think this current discourse does anything but inflame
I've acknowledged that the language needs to be changed in order for the discussion to be had because the majority of black men focus on the phrasing instead of the message.
In order for us to get on track towards unity, I think that black men need to understand that what benefits our people the most is this matriarchy. We agree that we don't have the same access into the system as black women. Naturally that means black women are going to be able to attain certain power financially and educationally.
Pretty much, when black women are able to get into the system of whiteness, it is up to black men to act as her protectors. That's how it should be. But lately, black women have not been feeling protected by us. It seems that there are black men who are trying to push black women aside and not accept their roles in our dynamic. As you said, there are black men who are trying to attain power through white patriarchal means, and that just does not work for black people. This leads to infighting and conflict, and whether we like it or not, it is because of us tryna push back against what has historically worked better for us.
When we fall in line with our role and let black women do what they need to get access for the whole of black people we will see black people make significant strides towards bettering our situation.
no matter how far you advance as a female through feminism or as a gay through LGBT you still BLACK! and that cancels out everything else! we need to force on black unity and let the LGBT and Feminist work on their agendas. They are doing far more in far less time than us!
I was bout to go to class but its cancelled so I can chop it up for a while long till the next one
Black feminism where not doing ad hominem. Wish death on black men. Out here wilding. The black feminism now seems like the archtype to call out black men and date a white men.
in many aspect black women are better than men. Economically, educationally, and more.
That’s a vocal minority not the majority.
And even with that they are still disrespected by black men. So what does that tell you?
I've acknowledged that the language needs to be changed in order for the discussion to be had because the majority of black men focus on the phrasing instead of the message.
In order for us to get on track towards unity, I think that black men need to understand that what benefits our people the most is this matriarchy. We agree that we don't have the same access into the system as black women. Naturally that means black women are going to be able to attain certain power financially and educationally.
Pretty much, when black women are able to get into the system of whiteness, it is up to black men to act as her protectors. That's how it should be. But lately, black women have not been feeling protected by us. It seems that there are black men who are trying to push black women aside and not accept their roles in our dynamic. As you said, there are black men who are trying to attain power through white patriarchal means, and that just does not work for black people. This leads to infighting and conflict, and whether we like it or not, it is because of us tryna push back against what has historically worked better for us.
When we fall in line with our role and let black women do what they need to get access for the whole of black people we will see black people make significant strides towards bettering our situation.
i mean i just fundamentally disagree, black women have been more educated, more employed and the primary bread winners of the black family since integration and we're still at the bottom caste. i just dont think assimilation will ever be beneficial to us, i agree that rejecting the natural matrilineality of our culture is detrimental but i think we need to be focusing more on self-determination and divesting from whiteness
When all parts of the car are functioning and working together the car will be able to reach its destination. However when a part is malfunctioning it causes the other parts to do have to do more, and it'll inevitably lead to the car breaking down.
Black men we need to acknowledge that we are that malfunctioning part of this car and we can't keep ignoring/denying it. It's okay to admit there needs to be repairs made. When the majority of us are on board with it the repairs will be made.
Black men, black women, black LGBTQ all need one another in order to go anywhere. Yes we are all black people at the end of the day, however it is what makes us different where our strengths come from. We need those strengths. When we try to separate aspects of what makes us who we are we are not giving our full strength.
That’s a vocal minority not the majority.
And even with that they are still disrespected by black men. So what does that tell you?
black women are disrespected but that is a Female/male issue not a Black woman/Black male which is what these black feminism make it.
Also, I dont agree with disrespect of black women. My father not hit or yelled at my mther, I never with any women i been around.
The issue is that a lot of our black men are financially castrated, which is probably why it happens. I gotta look at some stats, but Im pretty sure the the less money you make the more likely you are to see domestic violence, which black men happen to be lower on the economic scale (just a hypothesis).
Its a economically issue most likely not a racially issue
I mean me and @soccerfanj have been capable of having a discussion about it despite the title of that article. Don't know what's so hard about it with y'all.
Dawg, the article itself is trash! The whole thing! That s*** is from 2018 and been thoroughly argued against since the moment it was published.
I remember Jemele Hill retweeting it too. Same chick who lost her job speaking out against a white man and then was defended by a black man (Michael Smith) on television, who then subsequently also lost his own job because of it. He has not been employed by a big sports company since!
i mean i just fundamentally disagree, black women have been more educated, more employed and the primary bread winners of the black family since integration and we're still at the bottom caste. i just dont think assimilation will ever be beneficial to us, i agree that rejecting the natural matrilineality of our culture is detrimental but i think we need to be focusing more on self-determination and divesting from whiteness
Yeah I'm not on board with assimilating into whiteness I should make that more clear.
What I mean is that since black women have more access it means that they are capable of doing more for us initially, so that we will be able to fully break away from whiteness.
I think that many black people look at whiteness and what white people attain as the end all be all. I think we need to understand that while yeah, that is something we can attain, we can very easily do more than that and that's what we should be striving towards. Stopping at what whiteness grants is selling ourselves short and we pretty much just stay within the confines of whiteness. Which we agree doesn't really benefit us.
We're on the same page here.
“Every opportunity I’ve ever had in my career came from a black women” Facts aside from another one came from a LGBT homie
There’s a way you can talk about male privilege without tearing black men down and making it come from a place of hatred for blackness.
Exactly!
We can truthfully discuss intra-racial conflicts without bringing up white people and comparing black men to white supremacist
Black men are factually at the bottom of every socio-economic metric in this country. Literally nothing on this list has anything to do with wielding actual systemic power over anyone.
"35. I can wear a shirt that others and I commonly refer to as a "wife beater" and never have the language challenged."
"37. Many of my favorite genres of films, such as martial arts, are based on violence."
"53. I can spend endless hours watching sports TV and have it considered natural."
This list is so mind numbingly stupid. Lmaoooooooo
EDIT:
12. I do not have to worry about the daily hassles of having my hair conforming to any standard image of beauty the
way black women do.
Didn't that one boy get kicked outta school for dreads and was on Ellen last year?
21. I can live in a world where polygamy is still an option for men in the United States as well as around the world.
38. I have the privilege of popularizing or consuming the idea of a thug, which is based on the violence and
victimization of others with virtually no opposition from other men.
49. I will make significantly more money as a professional athlete than members of the opposite s***will.
59. I am able to play sports outside without my shirt on and it not be considered a problem.
69. In college, black male professors will be involved in interracial marriages at much higher rates than members of
the opposite s***will.
83. In the Black Church, the majority of the pastoral leadership is male.
66. In college, I will have the opportunity to date outside of the race at a much higher rate than black women will.
Was this list written by a middle schooler pretending what it would be like to write in college? Damn near everything on this list is some silly ass "what aboutism".
Damn I’m glad I ain’t read this
Dawg, the article itself is trash! The whole thing! That s*** is from 2018 and been thoroughly argued against since the moment it was published.
I remember Jemele Hill retweeting it too. Same chick who lost her job speaking out against a white man and then was defended by a black man (Michael Smith) on television, who then subsequently also lost his own job because of it. He has not been employed by a big sports company since!
How is the whole article trash when within the same article it highlights the very things you're raging against for? Nigga the article even says that black women have more access than us.
And as you see Jemele Hill is still getting work and creating her own platforms while Michael Smith is out the job basically.
This is what the f*** I mean when I say you niggas don't even f***in read s***. The article is about the privileges black men have solely because we are male. Because of that, black men try to get what white men have, however it is not attainable since we are black. And the additive is that s*** does not work in regards to blackness and how we should function as black people.
Actually read and try to comprehend s*** before tryna talk nigga. Other people itt and I have been able to have a discussion about the article, breaking it down and speaking on the points made, and you being mad detrimental and just flinging s*** around like a buffon.
Something to speak on about that coon attorney general on the Breonna Taylor case.
That nigga is an example of black men striving towards and assimilating to whiteness and the white patriarchy that we all need to prevent from growing within us. Not only did that nigga do dirt by a black woman, he also attempted to bring down another black man.
THOSE are the kinda niggas that exist among us, THOSE are the kinda niggas that black women be getting on us about, and THOSE are the kinda niggas we need to be more enraged about. Yes there can be confusion because black women generalize, however when you see a coon clear as day it does nothing to keep tryna argue with black women over some generalizations. This is the time where we should be tightening up and doing what we can to change the narrative and correcting niggas like that.