rvi

5y

i guess this shows some of the difference in our valuing of ""wankery"" cuz i could never imagine placing a hendrix song as my favorite for any reason other than guitar goatness

Atlienz

5y

do you prefer any live versions over the studio ones? there's that amazing 7 minute Bold As Love on the "purple box" that might rival the studio one for me

rvi

5y

i use Musicbee which I have laid out basically the same as iTunes. i just had to switch a few years ago because iTunes search of my whole library started taking like 10 seconds to load and scrolling lagged on my s***ty laptop back then.

I have "playlists" that I use, but theyre really just piles of albums categorized in certain ways. The main playlist "all" is just the entire library. The other main playlist is called Protein based off Henry Rollins method. "Protein is when you’re burning. You’re finding new bands, you’re trying to push yourself. You’re listening to bands where you know it’s good, but it’s tough. You have to drag yourself up to it. You put in the time." its the playlist with all the albums i'm currently digesting that I listened to for the first time in the past 6 months or so. i've tried to keep the total albums in there lower but now its a somewhat manageable ~100. when its gotten bigger things really get out of hand with the digestion process. The ideal standard that I've started using is an album typically stays in there for about 5 listens. if it's something I'm really feeling then it's at least 10, and for the rare cases where I dislike it its only like 2-3 listens. i used to have bigger standards for these numbers but ngl I kinda caved and lowered them partially out of needing less listens for styles I already know and love, and just wanting to listen to more music. the original number I started at was 15. After the album is done in the Protein playlist, it goes into the Rate playlist where I give it one more non-super passive listen and log it into Rateyourmusic, then delete it from the rate playlist. At that point the first round of digestion ends. but recently I've found that a second round of digestion is when I really especially fall in love with an artist, and happens once I put them away for a year or two and then suddenly really want to revisit it. then i'll give as many non-protein listens as I want as long as I'm feeling it. there's also a playlist of albums I just downloaded to listen to for the first time, usually stays at <50. in my other notepad file of non-music stuff I'll also throw artists/album names on there as I discover them to download some time later

so those are the "piles" of albums that I choose from. I have yet to find a good way to split the following and always break my own guidelines, but this is what I've been going with for now roughly. I assume like 12 listening hours for a normal work day (though its actually more like 10-11), and I divide it between albums in the Protein pile, albums in the Rate pile, albums to revisit for secondary digestion, and just simple extracirricular listening of whatever I want to hear the most. typical divide that I'm trying to go for is like 5 hours of protein digestion, 2 first-time listen albums that get added into the Protein pile. 1 hour of rating albums, 1 hour of secondary digestion, and 4 hours of whatever I want at the end of the night. Recently though because its nearing the end of 2021 and I want to whittle down my currently ~100 albums ready to rate as much as possible, I'm probably doing 4 hours of that a day. then as a result im kinda falling behind on the regular protein

as for choosing the albums for each day: at the beginning of every week I will make other playlist piles of albums of the different categories: protein, rate, re-listen, 1st listen. then for the next day I will choose albums accordingly from those piles and make it into another playlist ie: Thurs daytime. the daytime playlist aims to be like 8 hours, and then there's another nighttime playlist where I will add the albums I'm really feeling for the tomorrow night. and for that I just have a notepad file with a list of the artists I'm currently binging on every night so I don't forget. Weekend is similar but I tend to do a lot more of the "whatever i want" listening. then on Sunday I kind of clear everything out and prepare all the piles again

The playlists I plan out for each day are very idealized though and I almost always fall behind, like I'll have 10 albums on there but for some reason or another I only got to 8 of them, then the other 2 have to roll over to the next day etc. which pushes everything back again. but I figure its better to have a larger list then to have a smaller realistic list that I might reach the end of and have nothing left to listen to. ill also totally break the rules sometimes and just kick an album out of the protein list and just slap a quick rating on it if things are getting super congested and I'm not feeling it

and i think that covers the listening process for now lol. always looking to try to perfect it though and its changed a lot from when it started

edit: also should say that I do such a scheduled order of listening because I found that when I'm interested and thinking of something that's when I really want to listen, so spur of the moment decisions and shuffle don't do it as much for me

rvi

5y

we are digressing way too much beyond 66 but yeah that bold as love version is lovely

rvi

5y

the pressing stuff is superfluous a lot of the time when they're going super deep, I'd just try to look on there and see if there's a general consensus of mono vs. stereo, or if some remaster or version was particularly terrible

i looked through a gigantic Sabbath pressing thread where everyone was swearing by one particular version then I checked it out and it didn't even sound noticeably different to the regular remaster I already had

rvi

5y

@Elric gave you my autistic spiel so you gotta give your method summary to refresh my memory

also should mention that nowadays since living along I usually listen on my big speakers all day, except the last few hours which are headphones sitting in bed

Elric

5y

There was a time when I had a couple different playlists jam-packed with albums all within certain genres and I'd throw that on random album at work and go through some pretty heavy genre and subgenre digestion but I don't think they have that option anymore I don't have it even remotely near as rigid a processes you have, hardly worth talking about.

My process for this thread however is pretty strenuous because I'll go through every notable artist and add every single and b-side to the years playlist (and deep cuts for big artists I know I'm going to want to add later) then do a s***load of research on other stuff that I missed out on and big songs from different genres and then I'll compile as much as of that as I can in there as well. After I've loaded hundreds of songs onto the playlist I'll throw it on my iPod which I plug into my car and listen to all day at work and listen to all day at home day in day out until I start whittling down the songs that aren't classic and slowly start ranking them way down the line. I'm pretty wore out on the process and kind of winging it by the time my final ranking comes around to be honest The process of starting again is insanely exciting and rejuvenating tho.

rvi

5y

how many hours of listening time do you think you get in a typical day?

Elric

5y

At least 12-14 hours obvi

Elric

5y

At least 12-14 hours obvi

rvi

5y

with all that film watching?

rvi

5y

with all that film watching?

Elric

5y

Watching a movie is something I might do at the end of the day music is something I do all day everyday

I will never understand why people act like they take up the same space except for I guess you who needs to listen to music while he watches movies and plays video games

Elric

5y

Couldn't this be considered like proto prog or prog prop pop or something? Feels like this was doing a 1966 what Stills thought he was doing on Bluebird in '67. Definitely never heard anything in rock structured like this before.

rvi

5y

yeah kinda, i wouldnt call "proto-prog" that specifically but since psych is probably the direct main precursor of prog i think a lot of it (the less primal side) falls into that same category. if you were showing someone how progressive rock started via the creative explosion of psychedelia era then you could definitely slot this one among a bunch of other examples and it fits

def not "progressive pop" like the Smile era Beach Boys stuff or late 60s Moody Blues though to my ears. but that term is pretty vague anyway i think

Elric

5y

It just feels like there was so much more artistic intent behind that deliberately architectural structure that was beyond 99% of these other bands they were just trying to wrap their heads around sounding trippy

Even the Elevators

rvi

5y

i mean if i started watching like 5 movies a week it would cut into my listening time so it does fill a similar space for me

Elric

5y

Okay well then I'll just hit you with the same fact I hit rasie with 5 years ago that made him realize he was missing out by focusing entirely on one medium; there are more references to cinema and other art forms in music then you realize and you're missing out on alot of context of the music you're listening to because you're so tunnel visioned in on that one thing. At least dabbling in other artistic mediums will give you more appreciation for the music youre listening to.

rvi

5y

So I'll just be tuned in to a few more choice lyrical references? I'm not exactly convinced it'll make much of a difference to my enjoyment

and i am already dabbling

rvi

5y

So I'll just be tuned in to a few more choice lyrical references? I'm not exactly convinced it'll make much of a difference to my enjoyment

and i am already dabbling

rvi

5y

So I'll just be tuned in to a few more choice lyrical references? I'm not exactly convinced it'll make much of a difference to my enjoyment

and i am already dabbling

rvi

5y

So I'll just be tuned in to a few more choice lyrical references? I'm not exactly convinced it'll make much of a difference to my enjoyment

and i am already dabbling

RASIE

5y

Start slow, one or two films a week

And you could end up adding to your listening by finding GOAT scores/soundtracks too

Elric

5y

I don't like opera and I don't like ballet :keefnah:
And new wave French movies, they just drive me away
I guess I'm just dumb, 'cause I knows I ain't smart
But deep down inside, I got a rock 'n' roll heart