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  • Jan 20, 2024
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    Elric

    I sort of resent the idea that I need to listen to anything a bunch of times to connect with it and that I can’t just trust my gut feelings, but there is something to listening to an album again with the knowledge of what it is and where the songs are going. Any disappointment or confusion is gone and you can just take it as is. This helped when revisiting Hejira. I still think however that the best albums have immediate elements that grip you and make you want to keep revisiting them, but like I said—there’s something interesting about albums like this too.

  • Jan 21, 2024
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    Fella

    I sort of resent the idea that I need to listen to anything a bunch of times to connect with it and that I can’t just trust my gut feelings, but there is something to listening to an album again with the knowledge of what it is and where the songs are going. Any disappointment or confusion is gone and you can just take it as is. This helped when revisiting Hejira. I still think however that the best albums have immediate elements that grip you and make you want to keep revisiting them, but like I said—there’s something interesting about albums like this too.

    I dont understand that resentment at all. Why should my dumb non-musician ass be able to immediately recognize what a master is doing when they're at the peak of their artistic powers, and who am I to declare "this isn't that good" right off the bat. I cant tell you how many of my all time favourite songs took years to finally reveal themselves on albums I already knew like that back of my hand.

    you of all people like to see past the egdelords who dismiss something thats been a touchstone album for millions of people for decades to try and see what the fuss is really about. im like that too, but find that I need a respectful dozen listens or two before I can fully write something off (and im pretty sure most other people are the same whether they admit it or not).

    it took me years to finally appreciate Joni and The Grateful Dead as much as I have lately, for instance. they didnt initially do anything for me but, as Paul McCartney once said, "I vaguely mind people knowing things that I dont", so I put in the effort to finally get it. and I just like to put respect on anybody with that much of a legacy.

  • Jan 21, 2024
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    VIRGILSINTHAGROUND
    !https://youtu.be/A8bpok8icAY?si=wDi_iucMHQq15ZEk!https://youtu.be/JzSUgOmP66Q?si=inn-NdO6f_ZkudR3

    you know these guys @RVI ? pretty fkn good

  • Jan 21, 2024
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    I think Pesniary's debut came out this year @RVI

    couple Belarusian bangers;

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    Jan 21, 2024
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    Elric

    you know these guys @RVI ? pretty fkn good

    nah im sleep

  • rvi 🦜
    Jan 21, 2024
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    Elric

    I think Pesniary's debut came out this year @RVI

    couple Belarusian bangers;

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95gG6gI4uts!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC0qDKmeoKA

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    rvi

    you remember these? you'd think soviet psych wouldn't be such a ridiculous concept coming from the land of the commune lol but life was crazy over there;

    "The term VIA appeared in the Soviet Union in the 1960s and represented a model under which the Soviet government was willing to permit domestic rock and pop music acts to develop. To break through to the state-owned Soviet media, a band needed to become an officially recognized VIA. Each VIA had an artistic director (художественный руководитель) who served as manager, producer, and state-appointed censor. In some bands (such as Pesniary) the artistic director was the band's leading member and songwriter, while in others he played the role of impresario. Due to state censorship, the lyrics of VIAs were family-friendly; typical topics were universal emotions like love, joy, and nostalgia, or idealized vignettes from daily life. Many bands also encouraged national culture and patriotism"

  • Jan 21, 2024
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  • Jan 21, 2024
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    Koala
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuaugaX8N2U!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7SUe1v-JAM!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3s6VrRzJnw!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8erwgHLfCm8

    that Tony Joe sounds like a saucy Tom Jones tune

    I said it before and ill say it again Hard Times sounds like the most Wu Tang song RZA never sampled

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    Jan 21, 2024
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    Elric

    you remember these? you'd think soviet psych wouldn't be such a ridiculous concept coming from the land of the commune lol but life was crazy over there;

    "The term VIA appeared in the Soviet Union in the 1960s and represented a model under which the Soviet government was willing to permit domestic rock and pop music acts to develop. To break through to the state-owned Soviet media, a band needed to become an officially recognized VIA. Each VIA had an artistic director (художественный руководитель) who served as manager, producer, and state-appointed censor. In some bands (such as Pesniary) the artistic director was the band's leading member and songwriter, while in others he played the role of impresario. Due to state censorship, the lyrics of VIAs were family-friendly; typical topics were universal emotions like love, joy, and nostalgia, or idealized vignettes from daily life. Many bands also encouraged national culture and patriotism"

    wild

  • Jan 21, 2024
    Elric

    that Tony Joe sounds like a saucy Tom Jones tune

    I said it before and ill say it again Hard Times sounds like the most Wu Tang song RZA never sampled

    haha saucy jam indeed

  • Jan 21, 2024
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    Elric

    that Tony Joe sounds like a saucy Tom Jones tune

    I said it before and ill say it again Hard Times sounds like the most Wu Tang song RZA never sampled

    its sampled on Ghost's Supreme Clientele

  • Jan 21, 2024
    Koala
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHwFmOCwg_8

    its sampled on Ghost's Supreme Clientele

    rightttt I havent marinated on SC as much but I thought it sounded too familiar

    tbh I feel like he could've gotten a little more out of it than this

  • Jan 21, 2024
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    Elric

    I dont understand that resentment at all. Why should my dumb non-musician ass be able to immediately recognize what a master is doing when they're at the peak of their artistic powers, and who am I to declare "this isn't that good" right off the bat. I cant tell you how many of my all time favourite songs took years to finally reveal themselves on albums I already knew like that back of my hand.

    you of all people like to see past the egdelords who dismiss something thats been a touchstone album for millions of people for decades to try and see what the fuss is really about. im like that too, but find that I need a respectful dozen listens or two before I can fully write something off (and im pretty sure most other people are the same whether they admit it or not).

    it took me years to finally appreciate Joni and The Grateful Dead as much as I have lately, for instance. they didnt initially do anything for me but, as Paul McCartney once said, "I vaguely mind people knowing things that I dont", so I put in the effort to finally get it. and I just like to put respect on anybody with that much of a legacy.

    I feel you man, but life is just way too short to approach everything in this manner. It’s also worth reiterating that I didn’t dismiss that album in particular. I didn’t even argue it was remotely bad. I’m glad it’s growing on me, but sometimes somethings just aren’t for everybody. Trying to navigate between what I’m just not “getting” and what just isn’t to my taste can be difficult.

  • Jan 21, 2024
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    Fella

    I feel you man, but life is just way too short to approach everything in this manner. It’s also worth reiterating that I didn’t dismiss that album in particular. I didn’t even argue it was remotely bad. I’m glad it’s growing on me, but sometimes somethings just aren’t for everybody. Trying to navigate between what I’m just not “getting” and what just isn’t to my taste can be difficult.

    definitely not giving everybody the same treatment lol just really substantial artists. or stuff way out of my wheelhouse that I wanna get into. sometimes it takes effort, just depends how much you wanna put into it. Im down to pour alot of time into it but some of the psychos in the fam thread listen to dramatically more music than me.

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    rvi

    wild

    western artists thought they had it bad

  • Jan 21, 2024
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    Elric

    definitely not giving everybody the same treatment lol just really substantial artists. or stuff way out of my wheelhouse that I wanna get into. sometimes it takes effort, just depends how much you wanna put into it. Im down to pour alot of time into it but some of the psychos in the fam thread listen to dramatically more music than me.

    I gotcha. It’s definitely understandable with a legend like Dylan.

  • Jan 21, 2024
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    Fella

    I gotcha. It’s definitely understandable with a legend like Dylan.

    goddamn Kris' version was great but this really hits on the touching bridge segment

  • Jan 21, 2024
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    but I give it to Kris for making the untoppable version himself for this Waylon was stealing all his songs lol

  • Jan 21, 2024
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    Elric

    but I give it to Kris for making the untoppable version himself for this Waylon was stealing all his songs lol

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztuXo9BuNAk

    I need to listen to more from him. Everything I’ve heard I’ve liked.

  • Jan 21, 2024
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    Fella

    I need to listen to more from him. Everything I’ve heard I’ve liked.

    I listened to his debut a lot last year but just checked his second album out today and this stood out immediately. One of those instances where it sounds so good I wish I could see it being recorded. I always picture Dewey Cox Nashville phase for these guys lol.

  • rvi 🦜
    Jan 21, 2024
    Elric

    western artists thought they had it bad

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akHJ-WROwZc

    will peep later

  • rvi 🦜
    Jan 21, 2024
    Elric

    goddamn Kris' version was great but this really hits on the touching bridge segment

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXYBhFP-DXQ

    waylon imperial era fully under way now only gets better from here

  • Jan 21, 2024
    Fella

    I need to listen to more from him. Everything I’ve heard I’ve liked.

    this just made me want a Wes Anderson set in South America lol sounds like something he might've already used

  • Jan 21, 2024
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    rvi

    nah im sleep