Elric

3y

i can absolutely put myself in the headspace of 50s early 60s teenagers and imagine how amazing the pop would be but the bar was dramatically higher by this point. idk man i never liked any of this super heavy clubfooted blooze s***. even when i was a teenager and even when it was Zeppelin. if your album isn't gonna have any melodies for me to cherish then it needs to be a literal relentless but artfully done Hellscape like Fun House.

rvi

3y

stan bias detected

disagree on the acoustic guitars having anything to do with the heaviness. it just makes it a cool ass intro. guitar tone is also much more distorted and production helps High Tide more. i think i told you before but Defecting Grey is equally heavier or heavier than old man going to me. that intro is just kinda goofy rather than menacing tho ill admit

old man going not shaking the room like futilist's lament. there's a lot more bass to the guitar tone

was about to post something from the superior parachute but realized its 1970 and not 1969

rvi

3y

put yourself in the headspace of teenagers who didnt know the bar was dramatically higher then

i mean i cant really do it that much myself which is why i think vanilla fudge is lame but i can understand the historical value

i also like stupid caveman hard rock more than you anyway tho

Elric

3y

yeah i love Defecting Grey but they heavy part itsnt doing anything the fast part of Becks Bolero wasnt doing several years before

Old Man Going has a certified metal riff that conjures images of a dude doing a power stance while making caveman faces on stage with a wind machine cranked on him

rvi

3y

defecting grey is definitely heavier than beck's bolero to me just not as good

also slightly different kind of heaviness, pretty things were starting to dip into heavy psych while Beck was too early to combined hard and psych rock in that way cuz he was co-inventing the original styles of both. kinda weird tbh

he also just had too much finesse to do much of the lumbering type of heaviness that defined heavy psych (and later doom, stoner metal)

Elric

3y

we have different definitions i guess cause i dont see DG as heavy at all, i see it as hard (during the fast moment). same with Bolero.

the riff from Old Man Going is definition of heavy for me.

rvi

3y

how about another harder and darker edged psych classic

Elric

3y

pretty good riff and rhythm. not crazy about the maniacal laugh and horns.

rvi

3y

all 3 of those are heavy to me. and hard rock. bolero just not "heavy psych" which is honestly a pretty nebulous subgenre anyway. more of a niche overlap fusion than a legit genre

heavy metal tho? none of em are and futilist's lament has some more argument but still definitely a no from me

Elric

3y

i still cant believe this exists @HeyFella @twinkletoez

Elric

3y

this is pretty f***in heavy and then hard alternatively

rvi

3y

yup agreed. contender for best song of the year too :epic:

internet buddy

3y

Page 200 and not even at the 70s.

Could the thread get to the ‘00s before page 1000?

Elric

3y

might be if it wasnt for The Horse

Elric

3y

were never getting to the 00s lets be real. the Water Wars will have begun by then.

internet buddy

3y

I understand why some people hate hippies now

Elric

3y

there more potent evidence than this

internet buddy

3y

Probably but this is like a SCTV/ National Lampoon’s Lemmings skit

Elric

3y

one of the weirdest pairing for sure but people actually had alot of respect for Tom back then so the CSNY were probably pumped. i think its cool.

internet buddy

3y

Don’t start with that Mad Max s***

rvi

3y

i might be ready for a tom jones reappraisal, not even joking