OPOct 11, 2020·1 reply
2wordsBad thread, “any other argument is too weak to consider” lol. It’s not that you have no argument but this arrogance about it doesn’t help your point and attempts to reduce other rappers rather than elevating your favorite.
I didn’t read the whole thing but if it comes down to emotion, 2pac so obviously and blatantly conveyed the human condition better than Jay Elec, Scarface as well. Even Andre is arguable
2pac nowhere near Jay's level
Oct 11, 2020Also TPAB is a beautiful and deep piece of work from start to finish
Every song has a meaning and all the songs connect and end up with a life affirming message
GKMC was that too but TPAB took it to another level. Kendrick has officially surpassed Jay with that one
Then he gave us DAMN, basically unlocked a whole new level in songwriting and performance - now he's an all time great and an icon in music culture..
- Oct 11, 20202words
Bad thread, “any other argument is too weak to consider” lol. It’s not that you have no argument but this arrogance about it doesn’t help your point and attempts to reduce other rappers rather than elevating your favorite.
I didn’t read the whole thing but if it comes down to emotion, 2pac so obviously and blatantly conveyed the human condition better than Jay Elec, Scarface as well. Even Andre is arguable
Yeah Pac will never be surpassed when it comes to that tbh
- Oct 11, 2020·2 repliesSynopsis
2pac nowhere near Jay's level
Emotionally? Because I don’t feel like that’s arguable and you said it comes down to emotion. Jay Elec sounds like a Bored Biggie on every track where 2pac has something for every emotion
If we wanted to go skill wise it’s even easier to pick at least 20 better technically off top
- OPOct 11, 2020·2 replies2words
Emotionally? Because I don’t feel like that’s arguable and you said it comes down to emotion. Jay Elec sounds like a Bored Biggie on every track where 2pac has something for every emotion
If we wanted to go skill wise it’s even easier to pick at least 20 better technically off top
No I I didn't say it was about emotion lol.
And this whole idea of "technical skills " is just a dumb way to prop up guys who couldn't write a song if their lives depended on it
- Oct 11, 20202words
Emotionally? Because I don’t feel like that’s arguable and you said it comes down to emotion. Jay Elec sounds like a Bored Biggie on every track where 2pac has something for every emotion
If we wanted to go skill wise it’s even easier to pick at least 20 better technically off top
Synopsis is clearly delusional, put Pac's best 20 vs. Jay's best 20 and he squashes him like a bug. Best songwriter in hip hop without cryptic nerd s***
- Oct 11, 2020·2 repliesSynopsis
No I I didn't say it was about emotion lol.
And this whole idea of "technical skills " is just a dumb way to prop up guys who couldn't write a song if their lives depended on it
“What makes him the best is simple. All you need to do is listen to the song knights of the roundtable, and hear what Hov is saying on the vocal sample. It’s all about human emotions. There is no rapper past or present that has so deftly been able to speak to the shared emotional experience of humans. Love, pain, loss, anxiety, wanting to be accepted etc., are feelings that we can all relate to in some form or another, and Jay Elect encapsulates them better than anyone“
You didn’t post this whole paragraph in OP saying just that? I must be bugging. You don’t even know what makes him the best lol
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- Oct 11, 2020·2 replies2words
“What makes him the best is simple. All you need to do is listen to the song knights of the roundtable, and hear what Hov is saying on the vocal sample. It’s all about human emotions. There is no rapper past or present that has so deftly been able to speak to the shared emotional experience of humans. Love, pain, loss, anxiety, wanting to be accepted etc., are feelings that we can all relate to in some form or another, and Jay Elect encapsulates them better than anyone“
You didn’t post this whole paragraph in OP saying just that? I must be bugging. You don’t even know what makes him the best lol
Jay's music isn't really diverse tbh
Like Nas really has chill songs about smoking weed, next to hard songs with gunshot sounds and so on
Jay pretty much stays in the same lane all the time
- Oct 11, 2020·1 replySynopsis
No I I didn't say it was about emotion lol.
And this whole idea of "technical skills " is just a dumb way to prop up guys who couldn't write a song if their lives depended on it
Also is songwriting really gonna be your argument? Because even Lupe is a far better songwriter, s*** even Eminem. Jay Elec doesn’t attempt to be the best songwriter, he just be rapping, there’s more to songwriting than sticking to a concept and having a point to the song. I’m not convinced he could come up with a great hook if his life depended on it
Oct 11, 2020·2 repliesSynopsisLmfao keisha song overrated af and since you're so concerned with who washed who, gunplay washed Kendrick
Idek wat u even mean by “bar for bar”
I went thru dudes whole discography & he’s dope but it doesn’t hold him down on being labeled the best. Not in the slightest.
He’s def not the best technical. Uprock is like his best straight rhyming joint & it’s a knock off retro hov & def not better technically from s*** off of relapse even
His wordplay isn’t that ingenious or clever just cause he throws in some abstract similies. It’s way u do with simplistic references that count. Throwing the name of the second cousin of the 4th Jesus disciple doesn’t mean your s better rapper. Just means u into digging up weird, nerdy s*** no one cares about
Even the themes of his song don’t have that much of a crazy symbolic theme. Lol I remember listening to A Million in the Morning thinking dude is describing some crazy metaphoric s*** when it’s really dude just stringing in s bunch of simple-ass rhymes to describe a dream.
& let’s not pretend that his limited discography doesn’t have trash in it. Ppl act like “ya he didn’t release much but it’s all dope”. NOPE. There def some trash on there
- Oct 11, 2020·2 repliesGoo
Jay's music isn't really diverse tbh
Like Nas really has chill songs about smoking weed, next to hard songs with gunshot sounds and so on
Jay pretty much stays in the same lane all the time
Yeah, I think he’s able to cover a good amount of ground topically and emotionally on the full length album, I love Jay Elec but he doesn’t have that much stuff that can connect like the real GOATs do, he doesn’t have the X factor that Nas does, and Nas isn’t even really known for his charisma but his presence on a track hits a million times harder than Jay
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- Oct 11, 2020
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- Oct 11, 20202words
Yeah, I think he’s able to cover a good amount of ground topically and emotionally on the full length album, I love Jay Elec but he doesn’t have that much stuff that can connect like the real GOATs do, he doesn’t have the X factor that Nas does, and Nas isn’t even really known for his charisma but his presence on a track hits a million times harder than Jay
He's possibly the only rapper who often writes about crying in an elaborate poetic way. Like the act of crying itself. It paints a nice vivid picture and I fw it
He has a lot of songs about how he was the underdog, faced the obstacles, beat the odds and made it and now he's successful. That's a super common theme in hip hop which he surely did not invent. He does it super well but it gets repetitive.
NOI s*** aside his writing is just easy to understand and I find that dope, even tho he loves using those lazy similes referencing the same 5 Blockbuster movies he's watched (Star Wars, Lion King, Road to Pertition, and 2 others that just escaped my mind
)He also says some s*** just bc it rhymes or raps about how good he is at rapping like a typical boomer. It's funny like listening to MF DOOM and I enjoy that
- Oct 11, 2020·1 reply2words
Yeah, I think he’s able to cover a good amount of ground topically and emotionally on the full length album, I love Jay Elec but he doesn’t have that much stuff that can connect like the real GOATs do, he doesn’t have the X factor that Nas does, and Nas isn’t even really known for his charisma but his presence on a track hits a million times harder than Jay
This wat happens when dude tries to come up with a semi-mainstream hook
- OPOct 11, 2020·1 replyGoo
Jay's music isn't really diverse tbh
Like Nas really has chill songs about smoking weed, next to hard songs with gunshot sounds and so on
Jay pretty much stays in the same lane all the time
Why do you keep lying lol
- OPOct 11, 2020!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qFK-7ANoMOgMike22
This wat happens when dude tries to come up with a semi-mainstream hook
No it's not lol considering this is just a song he recorded and threw away
- OPOct 11, 2020Mike22
Idek wat u even mean by “bar for bar”
I went thru dudes whole discography & he’s dope but it doesn’t hold him down on being labeled the best. Not in the slightest.
He’s def not the best technical. Uprock is like his best straight rhyming joint & it’s a knock off retro hov & def not better technically from s*** off of relapse even
His wordplay isn’t that ingenious or clever just cause he throws in some abstract similies. It’s way u do with simplistic references that count. Throwing the name of the second cousin of the 4th Jesus disciple doesn’t mean your s better rapper. Just means u into digging up weird, nerdy s*** no one cares about
Even the themes of his song don’t have that much of a crazy symbolic theme. Lol I remember listening to A Million in the Morning thinking dude is describing some crazy metaphoric s*** when it’s really dude just stringing in s bunch of simple-ass rhymes to describe a dream.
& let’s not pretend that his limited discography doesn’t have trash in it. Ppl act like “ya he didn’t release much but it’s all dope”. NOPE. There def some trash on there
You really haven't listened to his music if that's what you take from it
- OPOct 11, 2020·1 reply2words
Also is songwriting really gonna be your argument? Because even Lupe is a far better songwriter, s*** even Eminem. Jay Elec doesn’t attempt to be the best songwriter, he just be rapping, there’s more to songwriting than sticking to a concept and having a point to the song. I’m not convinced he could come up with a great hook if his life depended on it
Hooks arent songwriting
- OPOct 11, 2020·1 reply2words
“What makes him the best is simple. All you need to do is listen to the song knights of the roundtable, and hear what Hov is saying on the vocal sample. It’s all about human emotions. There is no rapper past or present that has so deftly been able to speak to the shared emotional experience of humans. Love, pain, loss, anxiety, wanting to be accepted etc., are feelings that we can all relate to in some form or another, and Jay Elect encapsulates them better than anyone“
You didn’t post this whole paragraph in OP saying just that? I must be bugging. You don’t even know what makes him the best lol
Saying its about appealing to human emotions =/= getting on a song sounding like your about to cry
- Oct 11, 2020Synopsis
Why do you keep lying lol
Your man doesn't have the musical vision and youthful swag to make a song like this, one that makes the crowd go wild like a heavy metal song
That was his attempt:
- Oct 11, 2020Synopsis
Hooks arent songwriting
They are absolutely a part of songwriting wtf? Exhibit C ain’t songwriting it’s a rap over a beat. Gonna need you to look into the concept of songwriting because you might be misinformed on what it consists of. Song structure is a part of that
- Oct 11, 2020·3 repliesSynopsis
Saying its about appealing to human emotions =/= getting on a song sounding like your about to cry
I hate to use this argument but you’re pushing me to it. If Jay Elec was as good at connecting with people’s emotions and songwriting as you say then he would have a song that transcends rap nerds and connects with everyone like Dear Mama
Oct 11, 2020
kenneth branaghJay E is great but a lot of his bars are very basic and elementary
3K is the bar for bar the greatest rapper of all time
Agree with 3K. Not the rest of this
