Secret wars will 100% be split into two parts

Yeah or they could’ve had him with limited resources, a small army & showed he was at a disadvantage from being stuck in the quantum realm for so long

Him losing then would’ve made sense & I wouldn’t even be mad

It’s not about how much damage Kang can do. It’s about how seriously he can be taken as a threat. Thanos’ first fight was him beating the s*** out of the Hulk. That’s how we knew he was a real threat. Kang’s first fight is him getting wrecked by a low level avenger and some ants. If I didn’t already know he was gonna be the next big bad, I’d have thought he was just a one-off villain for Ant-man

Oh word word ok.

I guess my issue does lie with the ants then? Powerful enough to blast away multiple universes but not powerful enough to blast away some advanced ants

Scott won because Kang didn’t have all his tools at his disposal.

They made it glaringly clear that he crashlanded in the Quantum Realm with barely anything and that he would need to leave and go back to the future to really get his groove back.

While on one end I definitely don’t understand the choice of having Kang get beat like that. That’s been my main complaint.

But on the other hand ion see how beating up a Hulk is seen as a bigger threat than someone who’s destroyed multiple universes.

I get that kinda gets thrown out due to the last act, but idk if that’s due to terrible writing or if they’re trying to let the audience believe there is hope against Kang before he absolutely destroys s*** and wipes out everyone.

Idk that whole “did I kill you before?” And alluding to killing Thor kinda got me shook. Cus he’s talking about killing-killing the avengers, not some snapping the finger and making them disappear for a little bit.

This Kang wasn’t powerful enough to blast away universes though. He lost the battle against the other Kangs and they banished him to the Quantum Realm half naked.

The real danger in him would have been if Janet had let him free and he returns to his full powers.

The ants on the other hand came in with their full technology and took advantage of the Quantum time travelling capabilities and added thousands of years to their technology.

Kang’s power has always come from science and technology and in the ants he faced an enemy that had more of both. And he STILL managed to survive them.

And now Scott has in all likelihood accidentally released Kang the Conqueror back into the multiverse by letting that device and him escape the Quantum Realm. So this Kang will probably be back at full power in Kang Dynasty.

I agree. Him choking out Scott put too high of expectations to just easily lose later on. Essentially Kang ain’t s*** without his suit

I guess I misunderstood cus I was under the impression the kang we saw was the one who blasted away universe after universe

Yeah, that was flashbacks of him before the other Kangs caught him and flung him in fluorescent Azkaban.

He still did pretty well with the limited technology and resources he had but the movie made it abundantly clear that he needed the future tech that Janet obstructed to get back into full business.

Like, you could have taken the Infinity Stones & his army and thrown Thanos into the Quantum Realm like that and he would have done a whole lot worse. Scott and Cassiewould have found him down there living under a box with the rest of the Kang refugees.

which is crazy cause I swear Black Widow & Sam do more as just humans than he did

He talked about it but we weren’t shown it. That stuff has to be conveyed to the audience. They conveyed Thanos’ power by having him beat one of the toughest avengers, Hulk on screen. All we’ve seen Kang do on screen so far is get his ass handed by Ant-man and some ants.

But that gives the impression that Kang is just his suit. This guy is supposed to be super intelligent and a master strategist. He literally conquered entire universes and beat many avengers. But all he does in this movie is make dumb decisions and get beaten like nothing in his first appearance. How can he ever be taken seriously again

They did show him destroying s***…

Watched back that Loki finale and when he says all that “kill me and an infinite versions of me will start another Multiversal war” stuff and Sylvie was really like “nah you playing”

And now look what happened

personally I thought that the Kang that was exiled was the one that was destroying these other planets and universes in order to prevent the other Kangs from advancing. Maybe I just read that wrong. Like Ant-Man actually got rid of the one Kang that's trying to save his universe

You aren't getting it bro. They showed him destroying random places we know nothing about. We saw Thanos beat up Hulk (A character we are very familiar with) like it was nothing. Hulk was literally an unstoppable force for the entirety of the MCU till that point. That made us understand this guy was a real threat. W're only seen Kang fight Ant-man on screen and he lost rather easily. As a writer, that's not how u convey the threat of a villain.You see the problem now?

Nah this was Kang the Conqueror, the main Kang. The good Kang was "He who remains", the kang at the end of Loki

Yea but we don’t need it spelled out of what these places are to realize he’s a crazy threat.

I definitely agree the last act was terrible writing, but it doesn’t make me think of Kang as any less of a threat. If anything it makes me believe he’s gonna be a million times worse now since he claims he hates losing.

Yeah we've only seen him lose so far tho At the beginning of the movie and the end. Back to back Ls

But kang has like multiple variants of himself, by the time kang dynasty is out i’m guessing the entire point of it is the fact what he said in loki eventually happens. a war between them all

Who he lost to at the beginning? I thought it started off with him (powerless) and Janet stranded?

When he crash landed after getting wrecked by the other Kangs

You know damn well that doesn’t count, plus they didn’t “SHOW” it like you keep preaching about

Yeah him hating losing is a interesting characteristic

Definitely could see him going full rage mode because of this film