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  • Jan 3
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    2-3 week window is kinda how it already is in my experience. anything that wasnt a blockbuster last year (bugonia, highest 2 lowest, etc) would only spend about that long in a nearby theater before i had to scour for another showing two cities over.

    post 2020, the precedent is already there. even though anaconda is going steady, its reviews are middling at best which is another factor that dissuades audiences from checking out most average movies compared to the word of mouth quality that allowed a movie like sinners to flourish.

    netflix deal going through would surely exacerbate the issue despite what they've claimed, although idk why the ulterior sentiment is to just take paramount's word for being any better when they've shown no problem shelving lucrative IP from wide release and come with the added liability of alienating viewers with regressive agenda.

  • DEL634

    Can't tell if this is satire or not

  • Mac Wit Da Cheese

    You shouldn’t have to watch a movie in its first 2 weeks to be able to see it in theaters. That’s ridiculous

    The way the art scene looking this is genuinely the least of our problems. The shift to less theatrical with how current theater market looking has been inevitable . Boom of streaming also inevitable . People don’t want to be around others deal with poor service, overpriced food , parking vs safety of their home. Is it somewhat sad ? Yes but keeping a 45 theatrical window isn’t going to change much . 30-60 days max for major movies is about it .

    There isn’t enough talk about again improving theaters where there are 70mm, imax , 35mm , film festivals and getting things right . When a movie ticket cost 20-30$ the cost of owning the same movie in months for infinite watches . That’s a month of streaming . Going to movies special occasion or a list . I’m for longer theatrical windows but Netflix buy or not many movie studios want to raise the value of their subscription service not of theaters where they lose a cut . This is happening in music , movies and games . Then you add in ai problems

  • Mac Wit Da Cheese

    Bruh you guys are talking about your experiences. Yeah you watch movies their first weekend cause you come online to discuss the movies with others

    There are a lot of casual viewers who aren’t subjected to spoilers on their social media timelines who watch movies based on word of mouth, friends recommendations, for a date night, or just on a whim

  • TDUB701

    Taco boy really in here twerking for Netflix

    It’s Netflix or paramount I’ve already if you can read have said both are foul . Both are foul . Neither is “ the end of movies “ . Streaming is f***ing up all art to some degree and its value but just saying “that’s bad I hate that if it happens the medium of film is dead “ is dumb

  • Jan 3
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    TheFader

    S*** is sick to see

    • defends Disney every move
  • PUFF SHENRON

    Its an industry man there has always been a hierarchy

    They being so unserious

  • Mac Wit Da Cheese

    My mom is a movie fan she watches all of the best picture nominees with me before the Oscars. She refuses to see a movie in its opening weekend. Anytime I take her to a movie it’s in it’s later weeks

    I think they should end of year put all nominees back in theaters .

  • Jan 3
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    herald

    2-3 week window is kinda how it already is in my experience. anything that wasnt a blockbuster last year (bugonia, highest 2 lowest, etc) would only spend about that long in a nearby theater before i had to scour for another showing two cities over.

    post 2020, the precedent is already there. even though anaconda is going steady, its reviews are middling at best which is another factor that dissuades audiences from checking out most average movies compared to the word of mouth quality that allowed a movie like sinners to flourish.

    netflix deal going through would surely exacerbate the issue despite what they've claimed, although idk why the ulterior sentiment is to just take paramount's word for being any better when they've shown no problem shelving lucrative IP from wide release and come with the added liability of alienating viewers with regressive agenda.

    All of this is true. I’m a major city . But even then certain movies just aren’t being shown too much later . If theaters give studios a better cut or deal then they wouldn’t have to make as much bullshit cough Minecraft Barbie or push their streaming as hard.

    We also have an issue of underpaid artist and greedy ceos

  • If you read multiple paragraphs of what I’m saying and simply say “ he pro Netflix “ you are dumber than the Netflix users you look down on

    Zaslav always been suicide bombing wb . If theatrical was booming for them we wouldn’t be here. They are focused on shareholders and returns . Tried to get their streaming booming their best shows ended now they are trying to milk game of thrones spin off and Harry Potter again

  • Jan 3
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    BuryYaTaco

    All of this is true. I’m a major city . But even then certain movies just aren’t being shown too much later . If theaters give studios a better cut or deal then they wouldn’t have to make as much bullshit cough Minecraft Barbie or push their streaming as hard.

    We also have an issue of underpaid artist and greedy ceos

    nuanced issue. i agree w everyone else that every movie should have the opportunity for a full extended release, although its also easy to understand that thats not a guaranteed fix in a decade where theaters are virtually empty by week 5 if its not a $250 mil franchise entry or an anomaly runaway hit.

    doomer attitude doesnt really achieve anything besides more pessimism about the fate of cinema, which that crowd loves to claim is already on the verge of dying. everything being the fault of netflix and streaming is such easy target-low hanging-foregone conclusion s*** atp. what needs to be focused on is the theater industry and hollywood in general not having the ingenuity to circumvent why the masses prefer said convenience in the first place. whether that's creative/financial decisions behind the scenes, the type of art they're bankrolling or negligence catering to the latest needs of an affordable communal viewer experience.

    instead i can check producer patrick's feed on social media and see how they're still behind the ball on all of that, if not actively making it worse everyday

  • Jan 3
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    BuryYaTaco
    • defends Disney every move

    I literally do not

    I’m literally first page of the Disney AI thread calling them out are you crazy

  • herald

    nuanced issue. i agree w everyone else that every movie should have the opportunity for a full extended release, although its also easy to understand that thats not a guaranteed fix in a decade where theaters are virtually empty by week 5 if its not a $250 mil franchise entry or an anomaly runaway hit.

    doomer attitude doesnt really achieve anything besides more pessimism about the fate of cinema, which that crowd loves to claim is already on the verge of dying. everything being the fault of netflix and streaming is such easy target-low hanging-foregone conclusion s*** atp. what needs to be focused on is the theater industry and hollywood in general not having the ingenuity to circumvent why the masses prefer said convenience in the first place. whether that's creative/financial decisions behind the scenes, the type of art they're bankrolling or negligence catering to the latest needs of an affordable communal viewer experience.

    instead i can check producer patrick's feed on social media and see how they're still behind the ball on all of that, if not actively making it worse everyday

    I agree in an ideal world nothing would change with theatrical windows. Netflix would better support its movies and tv shows . Continue to do in theater events . Create their own theaters in major cities and drop physicals for preservation when shows or movies leave their service or are changed . In reality how Zaslav was moving was inevitably going to have after effects . This affects Warner brothers movies games tv shows and streaming . As well as discovery . This been coming in some form for the last 5 years. Chasing those big blockbusters with big budgets , adaptations and needing films to hit a billion got them here . Milking their past franchises to dust got them here . Hogwarts legacy , Barbie , Minecraft stopped this conversation from happening much sooner but the bullet been coming their way .

    I’m concerned about the amount of jobs , ai push and all industries affected by this . With it facing monopoly there is also a good chance this is stopped . All of what I am saying is simply either outcome we will be okay

  • Jan 3
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    TheFader

    I literally do not

    I’m literally first page of the Disney AI thread calling them out are you crazy

    Calling Disney out for ai isn’t some hot or tough take to go at Disney . Disney deals with theaters , buying up screens , buying fox and others is part of why Netflix wants to do this in the first place . All streamers just shooting at each other . People just pick and choose their favorites.

  • Jan 3
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  • TDUB701
    https://twitter.com/EmpireCityBO/status/2007120597093085680

    Lionsgate isn’t wb . Nothing would change with lionsgate . Showing that some movies have successful runs isn’t what we are getting at . We know that. I’m glad it does . Lionsgate doesn’t have its own streaming service in the situation of Warner brothers , Netflix , Disney ( less of an issue cause Disney moves weight even on trash ). They want to raise the value of their streaming service quick . This isn’t just about being able to rent or buy quick

    And again for 4th time ideally movies would have longer windows to build an audience even things with mixed reviews like m3g or handmaid

  • BuryYaTaco

    Calling Disney out for ai isn’t some hot or tough take to go at Disney . Disney deals with theaters , buying up screens , buying fox and others is part of why Netflix wants to do this in the first place . All streamers just shooting at each other . People just pick and choose their favorites.

    I’ve never once on here pledged some alliance to Disney, you’re just saying that because I’m an MCU fan

    I don’t even speak about Disney on here

  • Mac Wit Da Cheese

    My mom is a movie fan she watches all of the best picture nominees with me before the Oscars. She refuses to see a movie in its opening weekend. Anytime I take her to a movie it’s in it’s later weeks

    ngl.. I don't even like seeing movies with a big crowd like that. If I'm going solo I mostly do matinees or weekdays.

  • Mfers were crying bout Netflix

    Now look

  • Jan 7
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    ppl itt allergic to reading articles

  • Dreskor

    ppl itt allergic to reading articles

    It’s the great irony of users calling everything slop

    They don’t read

  • Jan 8
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    no means no typeshit how u get rejected 8x

  • herald

    no means no typeshit how u get rejected 8x

    Those of us who been reading knew it was going down like this

  • Jan 8
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    Paramount going out sad. They looking like the bitter, angry dude whose mad the girl he likes keeps curving him and wont stop.

  • Gameboi

    Paramount going out sad. They looking like the bitter, angry dude whose mad the girl he likes keeps curving him and wont stop.

    Netflix still also likely getting blocked / artist will stop working with wb out of fear of no box office bonus or low due to short theatrical time .

    People will still sit in this thread acting like this is the end of film as wb prepares a gollum movie and recast Aragorn .

    Central problem to movies similar to games and tv is creating new experiences vs properties . With unique ideas with the challenge of budget vs star power and nostalgia