you probably right i'm really thinking about it too to think of an instance where that wasn't true lol
But I'm realizing I've gotten away from the original main point of the thread which was speaking more from the fan's perspective rather than the artist
I think we as fans should stop treating art like a sport, thats really where I think it can tend to become too toxic
I feel you but its fun to compare 2 great rappers and debate who is better tbh
I like battle rap too but I don't see it as being the peak of rap b
Many rappers believe the skill level required to be a battle rapper is very high and few rappers can do it. I don’t think it’s the peak of rap either but that wasn’t my point.
I feel you but its fun to compare 2 great rappers and debate who is better tbh
Yea I know lol I used to think so to, guess I'm just over it now
True. But this can apply to producers who go to beat battles as well. Although the "how to make it" s*** can be cringy, the music business is still a business and competitiveness is just a part of the game. Even for hobbyists there is still the element of competing with others to be heard even though it is seemingly easier to be on a platform due to the internet it is also harder due to saturation even if there is no one way "how to make it" and whether or not the intention is for them to do so which not only applies to music but just about everything.
I agree with this but how many producers in 2020 are breaking thru and having lasting careers off beat battles? I honestly believe with the internet causing so much over saturation & every one interested in music downloading FL & chasing placements, the producers who focus more on perfecting their own craft at their own pace are the ones having successful lasting careers in music
“Nothing negative has ever come out of competition in hip hop”
But the people agreeing with OP are the ones who don’t know the history & culture?
No one has provided an explanation for this wild ass statement. Just further proves you guys are d*** riders that are ready to agree with anything that makes you seem cooler
Crine at you circlejerkers taking being competitive literally to support your s***ty narrative
Being competitive is a mindset
Crine at you circlejerkers taking being competitive literally to support your s***ty narrative
Being competitive is a mindset
Literally nobody disagrees that it's a mindset b
The Drake Pusha beef made it corny because it became less about the music and more about who could say the most outrageous diss
I agree with this but how many producers in 2020 are breaking thru and having lasting careers off beat battles? I honestly believe with the internet causing so much over saturation & every one interested in music downloading FL & chasing placements, the producers who focus more on perfecting their own craft at their own pace are the ones having successful lasting careers in music
Not many tbh, but beat battles are basically artist showcases and an excuse to network and be seen by industry people and even then you can't say they don't focus on their own craft either which is why I mentioned them in the first place. And I don't know, internet money has found great success and they are a bunch of type beat producers. And then you got Charlie Heat who worked with a bunch of local artists in Philly and Jersey and got on through Uzi cause he blew up or Metro networking his way to Future and Gucci by a similar means by the internet, traveling to Atlanta and eventually moving there. And then you have the OTR producer who just happened to get his s*** luckily picked by the right person off the internet.
The Drake Pusha beef made it corny because it became less about the music and more about who could say the most outrageous diss
Yea like niggas call Drake soft for backing out but he was right it wasn't about bars anymore it became a circus
Its the equivalent of Mike Tyson biting Evander Holyfield's ear because he couldn't outbox him
Same with Ether and Takeover. Jay for the most part spoke facts (he was wilding with the "1 hot album every 10 year average" line thou
)
Nas resorted to playground insults which lead to Jay talking about having s***with Nas baby moms on Supa Ugly and by that point it became a circus, a modern minstrel show tbh. Two black kings tearing each other down in the name of "competition".
Like I said I know competition has its place in hip hop/art but in hip hop specifically it tends to lead to clown s***
In any other situation/context outside of hip hop Push would be looked at as a chatty patty and Shade Room/Lipstick Alley/Wendy Williams type of nigga for outing a nigga's baby moms/child. Only in hip hop do we just make it okay for niggas to say things that in real life would be looked at as gossip
Edit this just incase tbh but they have a good run so far, producers don't last very long in general tbh
Yea like niggas call Drake soft for backing out but he was right it wasn't about bars anymore it became a circus
Its the equivalent of Mike Tyson biting Evander Holyfield's ear because he couldn't outbox him
Same with Ether and Takeover. Jay for the most part spoke facts (he was wilding with the "1 hot album every 10 year average" line thou
)
Nas resorted to playground insults which lead to Jay talking about having s***with Nas baby moms on Supa Ugly and by that point it became a circus, a modern minstrel show tbh. Two black kings tearing each other down in the name of "competition".
Like I said I know competition has its place in hip hop/art but in hip hop specifically it tends to lead to clown s***
In any other situation/context outside of hip hop Push would be looked at as a chatty patty and Shade Room/Lipstick Alley/Wendy Williams type of nigga for outing a nigga's baby moms/child. Only in hip hop do we just make it okay for niggas to say things that in real life would be looked at as gossip
Facts back to back is a classic because it was actually a good song in addition to being a good diss track
Edit this just incase tbh but they have a good run so far, producers don't last very long in general tbh
F*** editing fam jm boutta delete that s***. KTT dialogue gonna have me cancelled
F*** editing fam jm boutta delete that s***. KTT dialogue gonna have me cancelled
Highkey, niggas some haters on here and will wait for you to blow up and post about it and then you end up on a complex article for talking s***
Crine at you circlejerkers taking being competitive literally to support your s***ty narrative
Being competitive is a mindset
Bruh just shut up you sound dumb lol
you said "it's not like it's toxic, s*** has always been used in a healthy way"
What is healthy about Jay Z talking about f***ing Nas' baby moms on Supa Ugly?
What is healthy about Pusha T making fun of 40's illness?
What is healthy about Ja Rule alluding to Eminem's daughter (who was a child at the time) growing up to be a crackhead or a s***?
These are grown men saying these things about other grown men in a very public setting. There's nothing healthy about it. Its childish clown s***.
Bruh just shut up you sound dumb lol
you said "it's not like it's toxic, s*** has always been used in a healthy way"
What is healthy about Jay Z talking about f***ing Nas' baby moms on Supa Ugly?
What is healthy about Pusha T making fun of 40's illness?
What is healthy about Ja Rule alluding to Eminem's daughter (who was a child at the time) growing up to be a crackhead or a s***?
These are grown men saying these things about other grown men in a very public setting. There's nothing healthy about it. Its childish clown s***.
it gets the people goong