Apr 11
Jonboithe fanbase here doesn't feel like it's changed that much but if u go on reddit
And concerts to tbh. Look who’s more willing to spend their hard earned money on this nigga.
OpenMikeEagle made similar points in this video
- Apr 11
afterimageLiterally seen more in depth a***ysis from threads on here lol
Yeah its a Kanye forum, that discusses Kanye to a parasocial amount sometimes. We know more than most sane people do about particular celebrities.
Apr 11
SABMAN TURNT 🧔🏻Apr 11·2 replies
huey p rxcannever heard this writer in my life, i’m not reading a black man take down ye so he can tap dance and up his own stock to whites
ye is a coon but if he’s not trying to have a genuine convo and instead just shame niggas for ny times demographic the. bump all this
bragging about not knowing Andre Gee is crazy
KobeToTha 🇩🇴Apr 11He gotta interview a 30 year old Ye fan like myself. Hes mentioning 21 year olds saying they trust Ye 100%, which is wild.
Id at least tell him that yes, I still am a fan of his music but admit Hes been a s***ty f***ing person for close to a decade- Apr 11·1 replySABMAN TURNT
bragging about not knowing Andre Gee is crazy
this article does not motivate me to read his other writing but i’d love to be proven wrong, humbled, and inspired by his work
- Apr 11
this article didn’t bring anything new to the idea
it was an ok read
Apr 11huey p rxcanwhat is cool about ye’s image? what is cool about a man that choose to use dave blunts to write about sucking his cousins d***?
what is the “cool” factor about ye’s rebellion that keeps millions engaged with his art ?
Yeah its odd that the quality of everything has dropped off so drastically and yet younger people whose relationship to Ye is most closely associated with this substandard version of his art/cultural contribution are also so loudly defensive of him.
A big part of it is that his fanbase has changed and hes done a lot to add in this whole other political demographic but theres also a rush to just totally wave away this last like 8 years of nonsense as soon as he shows any signs of competence
- Apr 11
Im not smart enough to wrap my arms around it entirely but its interesting
Apr 11huey p rxcanthis guy makes his ny times article using the same talking about we been saying ab this guy for years. no actual digging, no actual cultural a***ysis. just the same “i miss the old kanye :( “ banter
i’m sick of writers who are more interested in reaching publications than actually pushing forward with thought provoking questions.
he’s strangely not fully an anti-Kanye guy
Apr 11backJTIn 2019, a 21-year-old Ye fan told GQ that his view of the artist hadn’t changed post-MAGA turn, stating “as Kanye’s fans we all trust him, so whatever his decisions are, we back him 100 percent. I think he’s a great person.”
Another is that a younger generation of fans is either numb to calls for cancellation or more forgiving. A Seton Hall University communications professor, Antoine Hardy, told me, “My students in 2021-23 were more critical of Kanye and celebrity, but I have noticed a shift to defend him openly since 23-24.”
It’s notable that a clip of people moshing at one of his L.A. concerts shows a sea of young, overwhelmingly non-Black attendees. That audience might explain away his past comments and actions because they don’t directly strike at their identity.
The best artist-fan relationship is usually one of aging together and riding the good vibes of their classic era. But the 2013 release of “Yeezus” was a demarcation point in Ye’s career. The polarizing album eschewed soul samples and mastery of traditional hitmaking for a noxious soundscape of blaring synths and electronic drums. He alienated many fans who loved the “Old Kanye.” The “Yeezus” album cycle was defined by Ye angrily chafing against the establishment in interviews, clamoring for access to and acceptance by the European high-fashion scene while ideating himself as the new Walt Disney, pleading not to be marginalized and rapping about “New Slaves.”Whats the contention here? Not really sure what this statement is implying with no context
- Apr 11
Q3DUmm the K doesn't even stand for Kanye anymore
Kirkytothe
- Apr 11·1 replySABMAN TURNT
bragging about not knowing Andre Gee is crazy
This Jonny joestar avi is scary
Apr 11
Walt Disneyhttps://www.nytimes.com./2026/04/11/opinion/ye-kanye-west-wireless-canceled-racism.html
crine, 1 dot cripples their whole online revenue
Apr 11Man I have takes but it’s not a nuanced topic to share so I get it. At the end of the day, Ye did this to himself
Apr 11This guy could be spot on and Kanye fans will still not listen because they are in a cult
- Apr 11
I think these articles are well intentioned but for every cogent point there’s this level of betrayal that feels parasocial to me.
The story of Kanye is actually pretty simple in that as his status grew he found barriers that were more difficult to overcome/had to change his public perception to enter the spaces he was trying to enter.
Personally I think he just got on celebrity right wing grifting really early. (Which in a lot of ways is worse than sincere belief honestly)
Coupled with bipolar and substance abuse issues he became radicalized.
Hopefully he’s come down from mania and has detoxed enough to make actual amends, but other than that I feel these biannual editorials just don’t really do anything but stoke engagement from aging liberals and us hyper vigilant nerds
I mean he did it to himself there’s no gigantic sympathy worth engaging with
Apr 11Not really much to this. More of a recap than anything
Apr 11Walt DisneySomeone told me for NYT articles all you have to do is add a period after the com like “com.” & it removes the paywall
Crazy it works
I just tried this now my bank account is empty
Apr 11This is the worst day in history
Apr 11i stand with ye idc
Apr 11Am I cited
Apr 11huey p rxcanye is a rich piece of s*** but i’m not reading anything in this article that hasn’t been said before
yeezus alienated fans
he started raising eyebrows with confederate flags
why doesn’t this guy make a more forward thinking piece about the attraction people have towards a figure like ye? what is it about ye that keeps people coming back? maybe it’s a thirst for “authenticity” ina. growing my sterilized modern culture, that leaves little room for personal growth
now i’m not saying we should give forgiveness for a 50+ year old man to grow up. but this article refuses to engage in any meaningful way. it just rehashes the same things we’ve known ab ye for years.
at what point do we question, what is it about american culture that allows for a figure like Ye to continue making millions. what is it about Ye’s vitriol that reflects the desires and contradictions that underpin modern american culture ?
ye is only but a mirror of a larger cultural breakdown that’s happening, and this guy failed to really go anywhere with this article.
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- Apr 11backJT
You raise some good points but this is for the average NYT reader (not a Kanye forum regular), and serves as a useful timeline. It traces his fall from College Dropout to MAGA, antisemitism, and "slavery was a choice." More importantly, it highlights how his fanbase has shifted to younger, overwhelmingly non-Black fans who prioritize his individual success over collective Black progress. That's a key observation for readers who wasnt there. It also question how we and he has treated mental illness versus calculated image rehab.
The conclusion is that he's cultivated a new younger and whiter, right-wing adjacent audience that will stick with him forever, even as old Black fans walk away.
I agree that it doesn’t ask the deeper question of what this says about American culture itself, particularly concerning non-black Americans
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Apr 11·1 reply
Mafia Bossandre gee is trash
Only if you a smooth brain fan of someone he wrote about
