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  • Jul 19, 2021
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    thegreatdivine

    I'm not downplaying Kanye's contributions as a producer. He's GOATed as a producer already.

    I'm saying for the last however many years, he's not the lead producer on any of the songs he has production credit on. He contributes very little to those beats. He adds in a kick or snare and gives himself a production credit but most of those records are produced mainly but other people. His strength these days is being a masterful curator. Ultimately, that requires a level of skill to do, which he's one of the best at. He's an excellent executive producer and has always been.

    Boi-1da likes to co-produce with other producers but he also has several songs where he's the only credited producer. Anyone doubting his ability is silly.

    this is cap. Daytona for example Drake was chopping beats. He's got more into his beat making bag that era and is still super talented.

    But at the same time collaboration has always been part of his work. Doesn't change the fact his vision normally leads to great production.

  • Jul 19, 2021
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    SinceKumbaya

    this is cap. Daytona for example Drake was chopping beats. He's got more into his beat making bag that era and is still super talented.

    But at the same time collaboration has always been part of his work. Doesn't change the fact his vision normally leads to great production.

    So, you're agreeing with me?

  • Jul 19, 2021
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    thegreatdivine

    So, you're agreeing with me?

    Kanye is a great beat maker and producer. Him working with drake in that capacity would be dope from a pure music fan perspective. That’s it.

  • Jul 19, 2021
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    SinceKumbaya

    Kanye is a great beat maker and producer. Him working with drake in that capacity would be dope from a pure music fan perspective. That’s it.

    Not necessarily. The few times they've worked together has proven that.

  • stanciu 🔆
    Jul 19, 2021
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    Y'all done f***ed up what was the most peaceful thread in this SXN.

  • Jul 19, 2021
    stanciu

    Y'all done f***ed up what was the most peaceful thread in this SXN.

    the frustrated energy is just the aftermath of kanye releasing his album and his fans feasting while CLB is nowhere near release

  • Jul 19, 2021
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    thegreatdivine

    Not necessarily. The few times they've worked together has proven that.

    I’m clearly referring to drake using Kanye production.

  • Jul 19, 2021
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    SinceKumbaya

    I’m clearly referring to drake using Kanye production.

    Yes, I'm referring to that as well. The beat for Find Your Love is historically terrible. Many people even accused Kanye of trying to sabotage Drake with that beat. The Lift Yourself beat that Drake actually liked and wanted, Kanye trolled him with it and ended up not giving it to him. Even their collabs are wack. Glow is wack. Pop Style is terrible. Songs like Feel No Ways, 2B1S, U with Me? aren't songs Kanye actually produced on but his drums were used on those beats so he got a production credit.

    There's nothing to suggest that Drake and Kanye make great music together.

    Obviously, fans can want them to work together and that's cool. I'm just saying that they don't have some longstanding history of great work together, that's all.

  • Jul 19, 2021
    stanciu

    Y'all done f***ed up what was the most peaceful thread in this SXN.

  • Jul 19, 2021

    CLB to outsell Donda by 1 000 000 same day.

  • Jul 19, 2021
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    thegreatdivine

    Yes, I'm referring to that as well. The beat for Find Your Love is historically terrible. Many people even accused Kanye of trying to sabotage Drake with that beat. The Lift Yourself beat that Drake actually liked and wanted, Kanye trolled him with it and ended up not giving it to him. Even their collabs are wack. Glow is wack. Pop Style is terrible. Songs like Feel No Ways, 2B1S, U with Me? aren't songs Kanye actually produced on but his drums were used on those beats so he got a production credit.

    There's nothing to suggest that Drake and Kanye make great music together.

    Obviously, fans can want them to work together and that's cool. I'm just saying that they don't have some longstanding history of great work together, that's all.

    Find your love was a hit

  • Jul 19, 2021

    Lay off the crack

  • Jul 19, 2021
    giovanniluca

    I really want to be excited for this upcoming Kanye release, I really do

    But man, with the alt right and trump support, Drake writing for his album and in return, Ye telling Push about his son, the insane manic depressive Twitter rants, his last two albums being some of the worst body of works he’s ever put out

    It’s hard to be optimistic. I always hope for the old Ye, though

    A vibração da secção do Kanye estå péssima, mesmo assim não vos culpo. O vosso mano chamou o Drizzy para voar até Wyoming e ajudå-lo a escrever para o ålbum, o que ele fez. E ele depois foi-se chibar ao Pusha sobre o seu filho.
    Ele juntou-se a fanáticos de extrema direita e ao Trump, ainda afirmou que a escravatura era uma “escolha”. Entre outros pensamentos absurdos.
    Agora ele estå a lançar o seu terceiro ålbum de merda de seguida, e mesmo com a ajuda do Drake, ele jå consegue salvar os seus ålbuns.
    Vai sĂł ficar em silĂȘncio atĂ© o Drake começar o seu lançamento, aĂ­ vai prever alguns subliminares e concertos de igreja. É a Ășnica forma de manter a popularidade. A mĂșsica jĂĄ nĂŁo fala por si. Parasita.
    🐍

  • Jul 19, 2021
    SinceKumbaya

    this is cap. Daytona for example Drake was chopping beats. He's got more into his beat making bag that era and is still super talented.

    But at the same time collaboration has always been part of his work. Doesn't change the fact his vision normally leads to great production.

    Didnt know Drake chopped beats

  • Jul 19, 2021
    OvoChubbsTing

    Does anyone remember back in 2013 when Cole pushed his release date for Born Sinner up so that he could drop on the same day as Kanye? And if you remember, Cole outsold him by roughly 40,000 copies. Drake could do something similar. Since the album is just needing mixing, he could expedite the process and drop the same day as Kanye. In Drake's mind - what is the best way to get rid of Ye than to decimate his numbers by dropping CLB on the same day?

    Youre not informed well.. Yeezus sold more fw

  • Jul 19, 2021
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    giovanniluca

    I really want to be excited for this upcoming Kanye release, I really do

    But man, with the alt right and trump support, Drake writing for his album and in return, Ye telling Push about his son, the insane manic depressive Twitter rants, his last two albums being some of the worst body of works he’s ever put out

    It’s hard to be optimistic. I always hope for the old Ye, though

    People still think Kanye told pusha about Drakes son? Yikes

  • Jul 19, 2021
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    OvoChubbsTing

    Does anyone remember back in 2013 when Cole pushed his release date for Born Sinner up so that he could drop on the same day as Kanye? And if you remember, Cole outsold him by roughly 40,000 copies. Drake could do something similar. Since the album is just needing mixing, he could expedite the process and drop the same day as Kanye. In Drake's mind - what is the best way to get rid of Ye than to decimate his numbers by dropping CLB on the same day?

    if you found out about this thing called google it’ll tell you that kanye sold more first week than cole but you too much of a fruit to use that

  • Jul 19, 2021
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    che_guevara

    Find your love was a hit

    She didn’t say it wasn’t a hit

    She said that people didn’t like the beat back then and that is 100% True

    There’s even threads on the old Ktt bout it

    I think Complex and XXL wrote an article about that beat also


  • Jul 19, 2021
    WillyWonka

    People still think Kanye told pusha about Drakes son? Yikes

    Even if that wasn’t the case (which I don’t believe a word coming from GOOD music about it honestly) that situation was clearly sabotage


  • Jul 19, 2021
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    niggas crying abt sabotage itt while begging for drake to try and sabotage ye's release

  • Jul 19, 2021
    stanciu

    Y'all done f***ed up what was the most peaceful thread in this SXN.

    Not sure why they want to start Kanye discussion itt but they insist

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    Jul 19, 2021
    jynth

    niggas crying abt sabotage itt while begging for drake to try and sabotage ye's release

  • CKL TML đŸŒș
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    Jul 19, 2021
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    v12

    if you found out about this thing called google it’ll tell you that kanye sold more first week than cole but you too much of a fruit to use that

    Yeah kanye sold more fw but cole outsold him after that

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    Jul 19, 2021
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    SinceKumbaya

    this is cap. Daytona for example Drake was chopping beats. He's got more into his beat making bag that era and is still super talented.

    But at the same time collaboration has always been part of his work. Doesn't change the fact his vision normally leads to great production.

    Cap. Kanye said that he told other producers what to do and went to sleep during those 5 album sessions

  • Jul 19, 2021
    CKL TML

    Yeah kanye sold more fw but cole outsold him after that

    yeah he outsold him second week but he mentioned cole moved his album to the same date as kanye who then still outsold him first week. also both are double platinum