Scratchin Mamba

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US benefitting from this, as they have from every (world) war in Europe throughout history.

"The United States’ role in this tragedy is as much about its relationship with its former imperial rivals, Germany, Italy, and France, as it is about its attempts to weaken Russia. These three powers, and the Europe they lead, incessantly threaten to spin out of the US orbit. Increasingly, they talk of strategic autonomy, while pursuing economic integration with Russia and China, to US dismay. Russian aggression provides the occasion to bind Europe more firmly to the United States, by rallying Europe against Russia through the US instrument of NATO, and pressing the continent to sever some economic ties with Russia. Germany will be expected to cancel the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, to its great disadvantage, since it will lose an inexpensive source of energy, and to the great advantage of the US liquid natural gas industry, which will fill the void with a more expensive product. While certification of the pipeline has only been suspended for now, Washington will continue to pressure Germany to cancel the pipeline altogether. The benefits of Russian aggression against Ukraine for the US investor class are so numerous, that champagne bottles must have popped in Washington and on Wall Street when the Russian president announced the beginning of his country’s military operation in Ukraine. European drift toward the Russian economy is eclipsed. NATO is strengthened, with indubitable benefits in new orders from NATO countries for arms from US weapons makers. Calls for more weapons purchases to bolster the US military will escalate; yesterday, for example, a Wall Street Journal op-ed demanded a naval build up. And the arms industry will run at full-tilt pumping weapons into Ukraine to fuel an insurgency, as Washington fights Russia to the last Ukrainian. Wars for which the United States has not participated except to act as an arms supplier have always been kind to the country’s investors; this one promises to be the same. Finally, Russian military operations, along with Western sanctions, will drain the Russian economy, weakening Russia, or at least stifle its growth, and make it less a formidable US rival. How could Wall Street not look with pleasure upon the prospects?"

Yuzzy

4y

Who is this quote from?

Womanpuncher69

4y

praying to god the dumb f*** Trudeau doesn’t say s*** so when the nukes go off everyone forgot about us

TragedyBerlusconi

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Remaining in capital to boost moral and further legitimise the government

A brave move, him leaving kiev aids the Russians I'm spinning Ukrainian government as stooges who don't care or represent

Scratchin Mamba

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It's true that German energy policy was dumb, but that doesn't change anything in this post

By Stephen Gowans

Babaláwo

4y

Thoughts?

maxx

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This is the Russian POV

Womanpuncher69

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i don’t know how dependent Russia is on Swift so how huge is this ?

Y0rn

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I hoped this thread would be more serious than the ridiculous one in Life sxn and then you get this

maxx

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Elaborate

What I posted is unironically the ideological underpinnings of Putin's political moves since before 2014

Y0rn

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You're giving the Russian perspective as context and there's nothing wrong with that, but imo that statement is kinda ridiculous if you read it totally, esp taking in mind this man has connections to Putin

maxx

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idk what it is you are taking issue with bro

are you saying Putin is not influenced by Dugin?
or are you taking issue with Dugin's worldview?

either way i think its essential to understand that worldview to understand this conflict

Y0rn

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W multiple things. But i also despise conservatism, so maybe that's why it rubs me the wrong way too. And i know he has influence on Putin. That's why i think that statement is ridiculous, esp the latter part where he says all will share

Also him saying its not a war on Ukraine while there are civilians dying annoys me tbh

But i do get this is their view on things. A very conservative view, but nonetheless interesting for this thread. And he only looks at ideologies and less to the practical side of things ofc

maxx

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This is the Russian POV

Womanpuncher69

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How serious is Dugin actually taken in Russia? I usually hear how westerners overblow his influence

Womanpuncher69

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How serious is Dugin actually taken in Russia? I usually hear how westerners overblow his influence

gabapentin

4y

respond discord