2022 RU - UKR Conflict Thread (serious discussion only) - fighting in kyiv

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  • Mar 7, 2022
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    CLB PRADA

    So America & Israel are the only ones who can invade and bomb countries without having any sanctions on em?

  • Mar 7, 2022
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    krishna bound

    I don’t think as much is calculated as you’d probably think. It’s also why the “everything is a CIA plot” stuff kinda falls through. At any given point you of course malevolent parties acting on multiple intersecting on points of tension at the same time, but how much of that is ultimately realized is up in the air and more dependent on tons of factors and actions at once. I think in the nascency of agencies it was easier for them to be omnipresent and focused, but currently it’s just like powers that be have tendrils everywhere which often intersect and nullify themselves in a tangled mess. I think honestly yeah a lot of stuff in government and media and the like really does happen because people believe things or at least are delusional enough to think they do. Which is a lot harder to try to think about how to then counteract than if they were just arbitrarily malevolent

    It's definitely a fascinating thought that some people in high positions unironically believe in their own propaganda

  • Mar 7, 2022
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    Could it be true that Putin was lowkey trolling with the DENAZIFICATION and WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION thing?

    I mean he dropped those things from his demands

  • Mar 7, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Could it be true that Putin was lowkey trolling with the DENAZIFICATION and WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION thing?

    I mean he dropped those things from his demands

    Or Zelensky wouldn't budge on "no Nazis" ...and Putin said f*** it and just gave in?

  • Mar 7, 2022
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    JaeRell

    Or Zelensky wouldn't budge on "no Nazis" ...and Putin said f*** it and just gave in?

    Lmao lowkey I could see Russia having intel on Zelensky being hostage to Nazis and being like okay forget abt that

  • Scratchin Mamba

    It's definitely a fascinating thought that some people in high positions unironically believe in their own propaganda

    I don't think this is honestly that weird or farfetched, it's only weird because their ideology is so clearly destructive that it's hard to wrap your head around anyone believing it for anything other than personal gain. But honestly if you've ever met a lot of ""activist"" types of liberals, they do genuinely believe it, and it's not hard to imagine that line gets blurred once these people start climbing the social ladder until they get into positions where they're around others who only believe things for opportunity whereas they themselves do genuinely believe it

  • Mar 8, 2022
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    Apparently Khrushchev wanted to give Kaliningrad to Lithuania too what was he on

    Should have done

  • Mar 10, 2022
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    what Russian propaganda have we seen about the day to day happenings of the war?

  • Mar 10, 2022
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    sorry for non-serious post but

  • Mar 10, 2022
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    krishna bound

    sorry for non-serious post but

    Google out here censoring all the good stuff, huh...

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    Mar 10, 2022
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    maxx

    what Russian propaganda have we seen about the day to day happenings of the war?

    mostly things about ukrainians placing troops in civilian centers that are still populated

    and yeah sure they have to but the russians just bombed a maternity hospital that had civilians in it

  • Mar 14, 2022
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    can someone explain what republicans mean be “not an excuse for inaction in ukraine” cause what is the us supposed to do

  • Mar 15, 2022
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    bruh the ukrainian government straight up posting race science now

  • Mar 15, 2022
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    krishna bound
    https://twitter.com/Uinp_gov_ua/status/1503439897025204224

    bruh the ukrainian government straight up posting race science now

    What is there to say

  • Mar 15, 2022
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    The Ukrainians just lost any support they might’ve enjoyed from Mari nationalists

  • Mar 15, 2022
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    The Ukrainians just lost any support they might’ve enjoyed from Mari nationalists

    It's pretty funny when Polish people online see their support for Bandera and they're like "woowww really come on now guys we hate Russia too but wtf!!!" and then see mfs do crayz mental gymnastics to defend their worship of Bandera

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    krishna bound
    https://twitter.com/Uinp_gov_ua/status/1503439897025204224

    bruh the ukrainian government straight up posting race science now

    Seems at odds with some of the terms on this shortlist.

  • Mar 15, 2022
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    I don't think Israel is the best pick for choosing a model for defending national sovereignty

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    krishna bound
    https://twitter.com/emilykschrader/status/1503650151742808070

    I don't think Israel is the best pick for choosing a model for defending national sovereignty

    Ukraine winning the propaganda war but that s*** is rigged fr

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