Aka I changed the discussion to justify my argument

No you’re being disingenuous. That’s what I’m pointing out.

No one in their right mind is going to assess who’s the best candidate against trump right now by saying past year’s polling averages show biden is the clear winner. You were the one who said that proves polling is unreliable when that isn’t how anyone worth their salt is going to look at polls

Literally the only person that's being disingenuous here is you

I never even stated who I think is the best candidate to beat Trump. This whole time I've literally been saying 2016 proved polls are innacurate and often don't even reflect potential voters that are vital to a candidate 's base. You didnt understand my example of bringing up Biden and you still don't. This is a dead debate. I never said I think biden is better equipped to beat trump. I was pointing out you think sanders does even though polls overall within the past year on average have proven sanders can beat trump. Even when sanders numbers were lower you still believed he was better equipped to beat trump. This means you disagreed with the polling at the time. I'm literally saying the exact same thing right now: The polls claiming sanders will beat trump are inaccurate

I get you’re trying to prove that polling is useless after 2016. But you’re using a s***ty argument “supported” by polls that no one is going to make in the first place and certainly one I wasn’t making. Textbook bad faith bullshit so no one can use polls to argue against you.

It's really not but ok. The only reason you are saying this is because Bernie is favored in polls you like. If the polling was accurate I would admit it. Ive even said the way they poll bernie often understates his potential or overlooks some voters

Anyways this is a pointless discussion. Neither of us will change our mind.

Everyone in here was s***ting on polling earlier on when Biden was doing well lmao

It really is. Who’s going to use that argument? Bad faith pundits? Campaign team members? Who else would go online and look up poll results particularly over the past year excluding primaries and say biden is most likely to beat trump despite poor primary performance?

who's going to say biden performs better against trump than sanders? are you seriously asking that question lmao

Yes using your bullshit polling framework. It’s a lame argument that doesn’t discount polls altogether as you said it does.

So you think me saying for the past year biden has polled better on average is a bullshit way to look at things and all that matters is at the present even though the present is ever changing? Ok I see what you are saying

Out of curiosity, has anyone listened to good podcasts which have been discussing the election or tangential topics (excluding JRE). Been enjoying Red Scare, and the short episode they did with Gabbard. Anna

the economy isn't that strong tho

just wall street is doing well

not saying Bernie will win Texas but I don't think most Americans think the Economy has been strong since 2008

most jobs added don't have benefits and pay s*** wages

over 50% Americans can't come up with $500 and missed car payments are at an all time high

the stock market isn't all that matters

Lol yea because basic ass means testing can be an awful way of assessing scenarios. Take it from the cs and stats undergrad. you’re using the bad faith argument with sincerity now?

considering Biden flopped in the first three states and Bernie won the popular vote of all three? The first time that’s ever been done by any democrat or republican? That Bernie is going to directly challenge biden in his home state that was once considered Biden’s safe bet? Considering Bernie is leading candidates in majority of voter demographics?

Yea I think a simple average of misc polling done a year before any actual primary may be considered a little premature in this case. And still doesnt mean all looks at polling are crap.

Wonder what word vomit is gonna get thrown out during black agenda questions

Jesus bernie swagged tf out of that town hall

he's really the only one out rn with that kind of Karisma

Deconstructed and Intercepted are some good ones both are done by reporters from The Intercept.

“The next question is for you, (x). Why are you a irredeemable racist? Wrong answers only please. You have 30 seconds.”

weed
criminal justice reform
cash bail

You forgot hot sauce & rap!!

red scare pod

yeah f*** that, anna got exposed as a fascist. but we been known the DSA is infiltrated with these types.

red scare is leagues better than any other leftie podcast like CTH

the DSA is a joke and for reasons completely unrelated

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