ight u said Biden performs better against trump than sanders which isn’t true
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-6250.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-6250.html
and how much more proof needs to be given that Biden’s campaign is a walking time bomb. He was hyped as the front runner for a year then immediately ate s*** and now it’s likely he’ll finish behind sanders in SC his firewall state. this man declared he was running for senator last night. Bidens biggest enemy during the dem debates so far is himself and he’s been treated with kid gloves. he’d look awful against trump
Polls from one month that show Biden performs better. You just posted. And I also said consistently as in aggregate.
And again ur missing the point.
When is the next debate
tonight
8:00-10:15 Eastern on CBS and BET
Polls from one month that show Biden performs better. You just posted. And I also said consistently as in aggregate.
And again ur missing the point.
Polls from a month ago. And then the primaries happened.
If you actually read the links, you’d see they already provide an aggregate for feb by default and show bernie performing better than biden against trump.
And if you look at the aggregates against trump for bernie and biden in January on that website, biden had a +5 spread and Bernie had +3.4. Compare those aggs to feb and biden has sunk -1.7 and sanders has gained +1
This trend is not promising at all for biden. Bernie also leads by agg national polls, cali polls, Texas polls, north carolina polls, and betting odds all on that same website. He’s not winning agg sc polls but recent ones since NV caucus have him either tied or a percent down from biden. And this man didn’t pick up a single delegate in Iowa and NH.
Remind me how I’m missing the point again
lmao, Steyer back tonite
cant wait for him to go at B-Ball and position himself as the "nice billionaire"
What’s the chance Bernie is going to Eminem it and preemptively say the dirt that’s coming in his opening
What’s the chance Bernie is going to Eminem it and preemptively say the dirt that’s coming in his opening
well theres no opening or closing statements tn
Everyone’s going to be gunning against bernie tn. Most likely attacks will probably be Cuba remarks, his budget plans, more divisiveness and toxicity (staffer was fired last night for private comments on twitter), youth and overall turnout not as high in primary states as initially hoped. what else?
debate is hosted by congressional black caucus giving me hope pete is gonna get ethered
Polls from a month ago. And then the primaries happened.
If you actually read the links, you’d see they already provide an aggregate for feb by default and show bernie performing better than biden against trump.
And if you look at the aggregates against trump for bernie and biden in January on that website, biden had a +5 spread and Bernie had +3.4. Compare those aggs to feb and biden has sunk -1.7 and sanders has gained +1
This trend is not promising at all for biden. Bernie also leads by agg national polls, cali polls, Texas polls, north carolina polls, and betting odds all on that same website. He’s not winning agg sc polls but recent ones since NV caucus have him either tied or a percent down from biden. And this man didn’t pick up a single delegate in Iowa and NH.
Remind me how I’m missing the point again
Ur missing the point because I'm saying polls mean nothing which is why I said you dont believe biden performs better than sanders against trump.
All indications averaging everything from the past year indicates biden performs the best against trump. But if 2016 proves anything it's that the current polling is severely flawed
Everyone’s going to be gunning against bernie tn. Most likely attacks will probably be Cuba remarks, his budget plans, more divisiveness and toxicity (staffer was fired last night for private comments on twitter), youth and overall turnout not as high in primary states as initially hoped. what else?
debate is hosted by congressional black caucus giving me hope pete is gonna get ethered
the youth vote in iowa did go up percentage wise tho, and in new hampshire you had a voter suppression tactic, but sanders base, 18-44 year olds still made up 47% of the electorate and it was overall a record turnout of just over 300k
nevada turnout was up as well, about 16k, but idk what the demographics were.
and in texas theres this
i dont get this down ballot argument either. bernie performs worst in affluent suburbs which could throw the senate and house? wasnt trump supposed to be an embarrassment for republican down ballots and they won both?
i get that sanders's policies will turn off some voters in swing areas but why should any credence be given to this if trump beat theee career centrist? or bernie leading every favorability poll? what is this compromise bullshit when other candidates are tanking?
yeah I don't think Sanders will hurt many down ballot races
like you said Trump was supposed to hurt down ballot races but he never did because he brought out more voters for the GOP
Sanders won't be able to probably get the Senate but again like you said who the f*** else that is running would win those races
Everyone’s going to be gunning against bernie tn. Most likely attacks will probably be Cuba remarks, his budget plans, more divisiveness and toxicity (staffer was fired last night for private comments on twitter), youth and overall turnout not as high in primary states as initially hoped. what else?
debate is hosted by congressional black caucus giving me hope pete is gonna get ethered
Add guns and sexual fantasy essay to that
Ur missing the point because I'm saying polls mean nothing which is why I said you dont believe biden performs better than sanders against trump.
All indications averaging everything from the past year indicates biden performs the best against trump. But if 2016 proves anything it's that the current polling is severely flawed
so you tried to argue using polls but then just cop out again saying polls don’t matter because 2016. And what in 2016? Primary polls? Presidential polls? You’re just being vague and nebulous because you can’t fall back on anything else.
and again false. state polls leading into all primaries so far have been pretty accurate when compared to results with all counties tallied.
And averaging all favorability polling over the past year to indicate who’s most likely to beat trump? If polling missed the boat in 2016, you mustve been the one running it
the youth vote in iowa did go up percentage wise tho, and in new hampshire you had a voter suppression tactic, but sanders base, 18-44 year olds still made up 47% of the electorate and it was overall a record turnout of just over 300k
nevada turnout was up as well, about 16k, but idk what the demographics were.
and in texas theres this
Agreed with all of this and I hate the turnout plateau argument because it assumes all non-bernie primary voters are going to swing trump or not vote? also neglects that Bernie is dominating these demographics.
so you tried to argue using polls but then just cop out again saying polls don’t matter because 2016. And what in 2016? Primary polls? Presidential polls? You’re just being vague and nebulous because you can’t fall back on anything else.
and again false. state polls leading into all primaries so far have been pretty accurate when compared to results with all counties tallied.
And averaging all favorability polling over the past year to indicate who’s most likely to beat trump? If polling missed the boat in 2016, you mustve been the one running it
You were literally the one who brought up polls and all I have literally said is 2016 should show you they mean nothing. I've never tried to use polls when that's what I'm arguing against. Again you dont get it.
Show me proof state polls are so much more accurate than what they were in 2016. Like concrete proof.
Everyone will focus on Bernie tonight, he has to counterpunch well
This is the most important debate of Bernies political career if he does well tonight he may be able to lock up the primary next Tuesday
He was sharp and witty as f*** last night at the town hall, hopefully that’s a good sign
Beto’s 2018 midterms brought him within a 2% margin of winning senator and flipped number of counties blue. Even Hillary of all candidates saw a slight margin increase for dem votes in 2016 for Texas compared to 2012. Add that to Bernie’s strong grassroots support and their concentrated effort for canvassing Latinos. Look at what happened in NV caucus.
feel free to go screencap yourself in 2015 and see how that holds up. #wizwearscoolpants #wizworksfor538
2018 is irrelevant. midterms and presidential elections are apples to oranges
if you think the dems can make up a 9 point differential in texas after 4 years of a strong economy you're just deluded. doesnt matter who's running. dont even know why im bothering to argue this
You were literally the one who brought up polls and all I have literally said is 2016 should show you they mean nothing. I've never tried to use polls when that's what I'm arguing against. Again you dont get it.
Show me proof state polls are so much more accurate than what they were in 2016. Like concrete proof.
Final Iowa polls compared with results. Only discrepancy is Biden’s slump
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/ia/iowa_democratic_presidential_caucus-6731.html
Final NH polls compared with results. All within 3 % margin of error excluding klobuchars surge following her strong debate performance
Final NV polls compared with first results. All within a 1.5 % margin of error
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/nv/nevada_democratic_presidential_caucus-6866.html
2018 is irrelevant. midterms and presidential elections are apples to oranges
if you think the dems can make up a 9 point differential in texas after 4 years of a strong economy you're just deluded. doesnt matter who's running. dont even know why im bothering to argue this
Try harder b**** boy. Quote me nov 3
That 9 point differential from 2016 is also lower than it was in 2012 and 2008
Final Iowa polls compared with results. Only discrepancy is Biden’s slump
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/ia/iowa_democratic_presidential_caucus-6731.html
Final NH polls compared with results. All within 3 % margin of error excluding klobuchars surge following her strong debate performance
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_presidential_primary-6276.html
Final NV polls compared with first results. All within a 1.5 % margin of error
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/nv/nevada_democratic_presidential_caucus-6866.html
So you are talking about primary polling not head to head with trump?
they’re all gonna be coming at Bernie tonight. it’ll further expose them as the establishment. can’t wait