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  • Feb 8, 2020
    krishna bound

    the reason people are coalescing behind Warren isn't because they think she's more left than bernie

    no s***

  • Feb 8, 2020
    Undecided

    Wait Pete is campaigning for mandatory military service too

    https://twitter.com/carterforva/status/1226193905546416128

    disgusting

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    Undecided

    Wait Pete is campaigning for mandatory military service too

    https://twitter.com/carterforva/status/1226193905546416128

    This is lowkey terrifying a dem candidate is pushing this

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    mentallo

    This is lowkey terrifying a dem candidate is pushing this

    I wouldn't oppose to it if it involved rebuilding infrastructure and giving actual job skills to make for meaningful employment, but all they would use it for is to piss in the sand in the middle east and make people even more mad at us.

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    I wouldn't oppose to it if it involved rebuilding infrastructure and giving actual job skills to make for meaningful employment, but all they would use it for is to piss in the sand in the middle east and make people even more mad at us.

    just create a guaranteed jobs program if you wanna do that

    actually there's already a candidate that wants to do that, i bet you can guess which one

  • Feb 9, 2020
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    krishna bound

    the reason people are coalescing behind Warren isn't because they think she's more left than bernie

    Wut

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    I wouldn't oppose to it if it involved rebuilding infrastructure and giving actual job skills to make for meaningful employment, but all they would use it for is to piss in the sand in the middle east and make people even more mad at us.

    You really think all of our servicemen just go to the Middle East? C’mon.

  • Feb 9, 2020

    For a second I thought so too, but nah, it’s probably some community service in general where you get stationed to help somewhere in the country. There’s something similar in Nigeria. Still a bad idea tho

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    Not sure if y'all saw it yet, but this debate polling is really great for Bernie

    projects.fivethirtyeight.com/democratic-debate-first-february-poll

  • Feb 9, 2020

    Actually in Nigeria it’s a little different. It’s only required if you are a college graduate + want a federal (or decent) job. Since most people work in the informal sector, not everyone goes through it

  • Feb 9, 2020
    Young D

    Not sure if y'all saw it yet, but this debate polling is really great for Bernie

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/democratic-debate-first-february-poll/

    What would be better is if he didn't get rat f***ed out of being declared the winner in iowa

  • Feb 9, 2020
    Young D

    Not sure if y'all saw it yet, but this debate polling is really great for Bernie

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/democratic-debate-first-february-poll/

    This is usually inaccurate tbh

  • Feb 9, 2020
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    Buckleys Angel

    Wut

    There seems to be some kind of misconception I keep hearing that Warren and Bernie share the same fundamental audience and policy plans, and I don't know where this comes from. There is for sure overlap between them (on M4A especially), I'm not denying that, but I do not think if Warren just disappeared, her audience would head over to Bernie unequivocally. I'm not the first one to say this either.
    If Warren's supporters solely cared about who had the furthest left policies, they clearly would be with Bernie already. What attracts people to Warren, besides a very small sect of idpol people, is rhetoric more reminiscent of college professor/mainstream press liberalism. What you see in NYT or The Atlantic editorials is closer to Warren than anyone else, but if Warren drops out, the next person closest to that rhetoric is Pete.
    If you're a raging press-adjacent moderate type, you're likely going to biden or buttigieg (probably buttigieg), not bernie. There are some people who would go to Bernie if they solely care about M4A maybe, but that's clearly not the sole driving reason people are with Warren. Moderates who have M4A as their one "non-moderate" issue have shown to be less solely interested in Bernie with cross-poll statistics.
    Seriously, look at self-identified neoliberal pundits on Twitter, or journalists for the NYT, after Warren, their second pick is almost 100% Buttigieg, which means they'd be pushing him in their circles, not Bernie.

  • Feb 9, 2020

    it's definitely very tough to determine how many progressive have already left warren for bernie, but i suppose we'll find out tuesday

  • Feb 9, 2020

    honestly i might have to convince Monica to run for president again next time i see her, the people deserve an actual communist candidate

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    krishna bound

    There seems to be some kind of misconception I keep hearing that Warren and Bernie share the same fundamental audience and policy plans, and I don't know where this comes from. There is for sure overlap between them (on M4A especially), I'm not denying that, but I do not think if Warren just disappeared, her audience would head over to Bernie unequivocally. I'm not the first one to say this either.
    If Warren's supporters solely cared about who had the furthest left policies, they clearly would be with Bernie already. What attracts people to Warren, besides a very small sect of idpol people, is rhetoric more reminiscent of college professor/mainstream press liberalism. What you see in NYT or The Atlantic editorials is closer to Warren than anyone else, but if Warren drops out, the next person closest to that rhetoric is Pete.
    If you're a raging press-adjacent moderate type, you're likely going to biden or buttigieg (probably buttigieg), not bernie. There are some people who would go to Bernie if they solely care about M4A maybe, but that's clearly not the sole driving reason people are with Warren. Moderates who have M4A as their one "non-moderate" issue have shown to be less solely interested in Bernie with cross-poll statistics.
    Seriously, look at self-identified neoliberal pundits on Twitter, or journalists for the NYT, after Warren, their second pick is almost 100% Buttigieg, which means they'd be pushing him in their circles, not Bernie.

    Warren voters second choice is bernie then biden
    morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary

  • Feb 9, 2020
    NOTPHARRELL

    Warren voters second choice is bernie then biden
    https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/

    I'm not saying that 100% of her voters aren't going to bernie, I'm saying that I don't think it's so unequivocal that it would put Bernie at some unbeatable coalition; it doesn't solely benefit him. I've seen various 2nd choice polls now and I know what they say.

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    krishna bound

    There seems to be some kind of misconception I keep hearing that Warren and Bernie share the same fundamental audience and policy plans, and I don't know where this comes from. There is for sure overlap between them (on M4A especially), I'm not denying that, but I do not think if Warren just disappeared, her audience would head over to Bernie unequivocally. I'm not the first one to say this either.
    If Warren's supporters solely cared about who had the furthest left policies, they clearly would be with Bernie already. What attracts people to Warren, besides a very small sect of idpol people, is rhetoric more reminiscent of college professor/mainstream press liberalism. What you see in NYT or The Atlantic editorials is closer to Warren than anyone else, but if Warren drops out, the next person closest to that rhetoric is Pete.
    If you're a raging press-adjacent moderate type, you're likely going to biden or buttigieg (probably buttigieg), not bernie. There are some people who would go to Bernie if they solely care about M4A maybe, but that's clearly not the sole driving reason people are with Warren. Moderates who have M4A as their one "non-moderate" issue have shown to be less solely interested in Bernie with cross-poll statistics.
    Seriously, look at self-identified neoliberal pundits on Twitter, or journalists for the NYT, after Warren, their second pick is almost 100% Buttigieg, which means they'd be pushing him in their circles, not Bernie.

    Ya it’s more about wealth tax and corporate reform I think ppl like Liz because she talks like she’s educated instead of yelling at the mic

  • Feb 9, 2020
    Katsura

    Ya it’s more about wealth tax and corporate reform I think ppl like Liz because she talks like she’s educated instead of yelling at the mic

    So for elitist reasons

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    you love to see it

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    Who would Berndog pick for VP? I can’t come up with anyone really but Nina Turner.

    Would be goat too

  • anti-semitic? is pete suddenly jewish???

  • Feb 9, 2020

    My b if this has already been posted but south bend councilman with the receipts on pete. Read entire thread. Rats campaign days are numbered

  • Feb 9, 2020

    cia receipts on pete and we already know blackwater and other sketchy military orgs have donated to his campaign

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    I don't know why people even worry about Pete. He's only doing well in these 90% white flyover states that nobody cares about, he's not going to win the big and diverse states. California? Hawaii? Texas? New York?? You think he has any chance winning in NY where Bernie is from?
    Before Iowa I was worried that people would actually vote for Warren but Bernie is holding on to the progressive vote and I'm no longer doubting that he's winning the whole thing. 2016 Hillary camp is divided up into Warren, Buttigieg and Biden while all the Bernie supporters are still united behind him and as long as that's the case, Bernie will win. The only thing that would stop his nomination is the DNC superdelegates.

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