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  • Nov 10, 2019
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    krishna bound

    there are times when nationalism could have worked fine without any form of racist elements but the West sabotaged these governments under the guise of pseudo-egalitarianism and spreading "democracy".
    I don't think Trump is smart enough to understand this level of nuance, but I also don't think Trump is a white supremacist, just an idiot. These things have hard definitions and casting him as one simultaneously de-emphasizes the ills of actual white supremacy while also legitimizing white supremacists by association

    And i think if you associate yourself with people who try to promote policies that benefit white people and rich white people and use the rhetoric he does and associate with steve bannon not to mention trumps whole history, you're a white supremacist

    You can get caught up in the nuance if you want

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    Synopsis

    And i think if you associate yourself with people who try to promote policies that benefit white people and rich white people and use the rhetoric he does and associate with steve bannon not to mention trumps whole history, you're a white supremacist

    You can get caught up in the nuance if you want

    Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaand you tell me idk what a white supremacist is

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    Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaand you tell me idk what a white supremacist is

    Please go find someone else to bother, or go do your homework

  • Nov 10, 2019
    Synopsis

    And i think if you associate yourself with people who try to promote policies that benefit white people and rich white people and use the rhetoric he does and associate with steve bannon not to mention trumps whole history, you're a white supremacist

    You can get caught up in the nuance if you want

    I think we're going to have to agree to disagree over the definition of white supremacy here, but we can probably at least agree to a mutual dislike of his administration

  • Nov 10, 2019
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    Synopsis

    Please go find someone else to bother, or go do your homework

    Maybe you should go look up what white supremacist really means

  • Nov 10, 2019
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    CONFUSED

    Maybe you should go look up what white supremacist really means

    You seem awfully adamant on narrowing what defines white supremacy

  • Nov 10, 2019
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    Synopsis

    You seem awfully adamant on narrowing what defines white supremacy

    No I just know the definition I suggest you look it up

  • Nov 10, 2019

    Stop making up facts to prove your dumb points

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    CONFUSED

    No I just know the definition I suggest you look it up

    I think ill stick with my definition and be just fine

  • Nov 10, 2019
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    Synopsis

    I think ill stick with my definition and be just fine

    Yea just stick withh a made up definition and you'll be just fine making dumb arguments based on fake information on ktt just like you're doing now

  • Nov 10, 2019

    Something tells me if someone associates with white supremacists and espouses rhetoric alluding to a time when blacks had minimal rights as "great" and has trumps reputation as a businessman then im not going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

    You can

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    CONFUSED

    Yea just stick withh a made up definition and you'll be just fine making dumb arguments based on fake information on ktt just like you're doing now

    Proof?

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    Synopsis

    Proof?

    The actual definition of white supremacists? But you already said you're not gonna look it up

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    CONFUSED

    The actual definition of white supremacists? But you already said you're not gonna look it up

    How do you know

  • Nov 10, 2019
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    Synopsis

    How do you know

    How do I know I'm not gonna waste time arguing with someone who can't put his political biases aside? Have a good one and I hope no one ever gives you a platform

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    CONFUSED

    How do I know I'm not gonna waste time arguing with someone who can't put his political biases aside? Have a good one and I hope no one ever gives you a platform

    I don't think you know how biases work

  • Nov 10, 2019
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    Synopsis

    I don't think you know how biases work

    I mean I would argue that making up new definitions of words to support your biases is a good example

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    Damn was hoping synopsis wouldnt have made it over here

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    I mean I would argue that making up new definitions of words to support your biases is a good example

    Proof?

  • Nov 10, 2019
    Yuzzy

    Damn was hoping synopsis wouldnt have made it over here

    Too bad b****

  • Nov 10, 2019

    Whos voting for my boy Andrew Yang?

  • Nov 10, 2019
    Synopsis

    Proof?

    Dictionary f***ing idiot

  • Nov 10, 2019
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    krishna bound

    there are times when nationalism could have worked fine without any form of racist elements but the West sabotaged these governments under the guise of pseudo-egalitarianism and spreading "democracy".
    I don't think Trump is smart enough to understand this level of nuance, but I also don't think Trump is a white supremacist, just an idiot. These things have hard definitions and casting him as one simultaneously de-emphasizes the ills of actual white supremacy while also legitimizing white supremacists by association

    Nationalism has never worked without racism or supremacism. Whether right winged nationalism or left winged.

  • Nov 10, 2019
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    Durkio World

    Nationalism has never worked without racism or supremacism. Whether right winged nationalism or left winged.

    Nationalism doesn't have to mean supremacy as much as it does primarily promoting the interests of a national collective at its forefront. While it has most commonly been interpreted in racist ways of course, I think it's disingenuous to say it can't function without racism. Nationalism doesn't have to mean violently exclusionary policies, it can also manifest in forms of sovereignty, self-determination, or cultural renaissance/identity. Would you say that anti-imperalist nationallism is racist for example?

  • Nov 10, 2019
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    krishna bound

    Nationalism doesn't have to mean supremacy as much as it does primarily promoting the interests of a national collective at its forefront. While it has most commonly been interpreted in racist ways of course, I think it's disingenuous to say it can't function without racism. Nationalism doesn't have to mean violently exclusionary policies, it can also manifest in forms of sovereignty, self-determination, or cultural renaissance/identity. Would you say that anti-imperalist nationallism is racist for example?

    Hitler used self determination as his justification for annexing Poland and part of Czechoslovakia lol. Nationalism is a cancerous ideology and is exclusionary by its nature

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