there are times when nationalism could have worked fine without any form of racist elements but the West sabotaged these governments under the guise of pseudo-egalitarianism and spreading "democracy".
I don't think Trump is smart enough to understand this level of nuance, but I also don't think Trump is a white supremacist, just an idiot. These things have hard definitions and casting him as one simultaneously de-emphasizes the ills of actual white supremacy while also legitimizing white supremacists by association
And i think if you associate yourself with people who try to promote policies that benefit white people and rich white people and use the rhetoric he does and associate with steve bannon not to mention trumps whole history, you're a white supremacist
You can get caught up in the nuance if you want
And i think if you associate yourself with people who try to promote policies that benefit white people and rich white people and use the rhetoric he does and associate with steve bannon not to mention trumps whole history, you're a white supremacist
You can get caught up in the nuance if you want
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaand you tell me idk what a white supremacist is
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaand you tell me idk what a white supremacist is
Please go find someone else to bother, or go do your homework
And i think if you associate yourself with people who try to promote policies that benefit white people and rich white people and use the rhetoric he does and associate with steve bannon not to mention trumps whole history, you're a white supremacist
You can get caught up in the nuance if you want
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree over the definition of white supremacy here, but we can probably at least agree to a mutual dislike of his administration
Please go find someone else to bother, or go do your homework
Maybe you should go look up what white supremacist really means
Maybe you should go look up what white supremacist really means
You seem awfully adamant on narrowing what defines white supremacy
You seem awfully adamant on narrowing what defines white supremacy
No I just know the definition I suggest you look it up
No I just know the definition I suggest you look it up
I think ill stick with my definition and be just fine
I think ill stick with my definition and be just fine
Yea just stick withh a made up definition and you'll be just fine making dumb arguments based on fake information on ktt just like you're doing now
Something tells me if someone associates with white supremacists and espouses rhetoric alluding to a time when blacks had minimal rights as "great" and has trumps reputation as a businessman then im not going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
You can
Yea just stick withh a made up definition and you'll be just fine making dumb arguments based on fake information on ktt just like you're doing now
Proof?
Proof?
The actual definition of white supremacists? But you already said you're not gonna look it up
The actual definition of white supremacists? But you already said you're not gonna look it up
How do you know
How do you know
How do I know I'm not gonna waste time arguing with someone who can't put his political biases aside? Have a good one and I hope no one ever gives you a platform
How do I know I'm not gonna waste time arguing with someone who can't put his political biases aside? Have a good one and I hope no one ever gives you a platform
I don't think you know how biases work
I don't think you know how biases work
I mean I would argue that making up new definitions of words to support your biases is a good example
I mean I would argue that making up new definitions of words to support your biases is a good example
Proof?
there are times when nationalism could have worked fine without any form of racist elements but the West sabotaged these governments under the guise of pseudo-egalitarianism and spreading "democracy".
I don't think Trump is smart enough to understand this level of nuance, but I also don't think Trump is a white supremacist, just an idiot. These things have hard definitions and casting him as one simultaneously de-emphasizes the ills of actual white supremacy while also legitimizing white supremacists by association
Nationalism has never worked without racism or supremacism. Whether right winged nationalism or left winged.
Nationalism has never worked without racism or supremacism. Whether right winged nationalism or left winged.
Nationalism doesn't have to mean supremacy as much as it does primarily promoting the interests of a national collective at its forefront. While it has most commonly been interpreted in racist ways of course, I think it's disingenuous to say it can't function without racism. Nationalism doesn't have to mean violently exclusionary policies, it can also manifest in forms of sovereignty, self-determination, or cultural renaissance/identity. Would you say that anti-imperalist nationallism is racist for example?
Nationalism doesn't have to mean supremacy as much as it does primarily promoting the interests of a national collective at its forefront. While it has most commonly been interpreted in racist ways of course, I think it's disingenuous to say it can't function without racism. Nationalism doesn't have to mean violently exclusionary policies, it can also manifest in forms of sovereignty, self-determination, or cultural renaissance/identity. Would you say that anti-imperalist nationallism is racist for example?
Hitler used self determination as his justification for annexing Poland and part of Czechoslovakia lol. Nationalism is a cancerous ideology and is exclusionary by its nature