We might see the lowest under 30 turnout or the lowest proportion of that vote ever carried by a dem. He can still win ofc but if im a dnc leader im scared af for the next 5-15 years
why would you be scared of the next 5-15 years? Biden isn't the future of the DNC.
Also your anecdotal evidence isn't correct. Hilary was MUCH more disliked than Biden is
It’s not far-fetched. Tons of old hippies and radicals from the 60’s and 70’s vote Dem nowadays.
yes good point
Lots of whites that supported civil rights as well but what really was the goals of those movements?
Support black people? It’s very understandable to argue in the minds of the average white boomer that supported king voting democratic and supporting obamas etc is doing just that
I guess my point is that the fundamental goals of movements now vs then are significantly more to the left. Stopping climate crisis, inequality, white supremacy, military industrial complex etc. The civil rights movement and vietnam war were the starting points but if we compare those movements now to the average young persons positions those movements seem pretty middle of the road. Like we’re past lets let black people vote without being killed and let’s stop the draft to let’s dismantle white supremacy and let’s dismantle the military industrial complex.
You understand what im trying to say?
Well generally as people get older their values tend to shift towards more conservative.
Obviously this can't be gauged to a tee.
Climate anxiety, inequality and race issues have all been on the agenda to portion of the demographic tracing back 40 odd years. Sure its more vocalized now and rightly so. Whether that will translate into momentous political engagement remains to be seen.
Younger votes have always set themselves up for failure. By simply not voting enough their vote is worth less and their views are less represented.
I wouldnt say the Democratic party is losing credibility. Political engagement has never been great for starters.
But beyond that there are a lot of exciting, progressive and younger candidates in the party gaining momentum and trying to spur change.
Its just a matter of maintaining that momentum and thats far from easy and is a problem that has been faced time and time again, and is not unique to the US.
Good point
But again the stakes are higher Now for young voters than its ever been in US history so lets gauge going forward as opposed to retroactively when 30 yrs ago you could work part time and oay yr self thru college and people didnt think the world will end lmaoo
why would you be scared of the next 5-15 years? Biden isn't the future of the DNC.
Also your anecdotal evidence isn't correct. Hilary was MUCH more disliked than Biden is
Hillary was among white non college educated voters
I specifically stated what demographics i was referring to
That whole ppl get more conservative as they get older s*** misses the fact that ppl used to build wealth as they got older
That whole ppl get more conservative as they get older s*** misses the fact that ppl used to build wealth as they got older
People still build wealth as they get older.
As always there are many contributing factors. But the core of exponential growth hasn't stopped being a thing
I’m torn cause I was gonna vote for the boys second term but now I wanna vote for Ye, but what it s*** gets muddy and Sleepy Joe ends up winning
I’m torn cause I was gonna vote for the boys second term but now I wanna vote for Ye, but what it s*** gets muddy and Sleepy Joe ends up winning
This is actually a terrible post
I’m torn cause I was gonna vote for the boys second term but now I wanna vote for Ye, but what it s*** gets muddy and Sleepy Joe ends up winning
nah go for it vote for ye
Bowman and aoc got schumer shook
I’ve been critical of the progressive wave being limited to two or three cities (la, seattle, nyc) but atleast it has the centrist democrats in these areas more open to shift left lmao
No surprises here smh what a f***ing joke
https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/1281739859263139840Just so out of f***ing control now
If you really think that, then IDK what to tell you. The vast majority of his supporters will happily vote for Biden just as they did Hillary. You’re really living in a bubble.
I never said anything about supporting Biden but none of them are trying to pretend he’s a great candidate like you are
I never said anything about supporting Biden but none of them are trying to pretend he’s a great candidate like you are
Ive never said he is a great candidate, so clearly you are delusional. I’ve supported Bernie for two elections and pretty much said Biden isn’t the end of the world and your DNC conspiracy theories are stupid, and you act like I’m going door to door for him.
You said that a vast majority of them think that Biden is terrible, which again, is just showing that you are out of touch with reality. Stop investing so much of your opinion on what you see on insular Internet forums.
Lol Trump looking like he knows he's f***ed regardless by throwing down that pardon for Roger Stone
Lol Trump looking like he knows he's f***ed regardless by throwing down that pardon for Roger Stone
Yup. F***ed if he did, f***ed if he didnt. Essentially just been blackmailed.
Ive never said he is a great candidate, so clearly you are delusional. I’ve supported Bernie for two elections and pretty much said Biden isn’t the end of the world and your DNC conspiracy theories are stupid, and you act like I’m going door to door for him.
You said that a vast majority of them think that Biden is terrible, which again, is just showing that you are out of touch with reality. Stop investing so much of your opinion on what you see on insular Internet forums.
I don’t invest my opinion in internet forums I volunteered for Bernie and have been protesting with people for the past month I talk to those people and almost none of them are as positive about Biden as you are.
You’re the only one promoting Biden as “progressive” of any Bernie supporter I’ve spoken with. Yet you feel you’re apart of some silent majority of a Bernie supporters
I don’t invest my opinion in internet forums I volunteered for Bernie and have been protesting with people for the past month I talk to those people and almost none of them are as positive about Biden as you are.
You’re the only one promoting Biden as “progressive” of any Bernie supporter I’ve spoken with. Yet you feel you’re apart of some silent majority of a Bernie supporters
Lol when have I ever even really been positive of Biden? I just don’t even understand the thought process that some of you have.
Lol when have I ever even really been positive of Biden? I just don’t even understand the thought process that some of you have.
You called him “super progressive” just a week ago
You called him “super progressive” just a week ago
“as far as Dems go”, literally in the same sentence where I contrasted him to “actual progressives”.
You act like I’m part of the Biden campaign just because I didn’t but into hokey conspiracies or claim that he is somehow worse than Trump.
“as far as Dems go”, literally in the same sentence where I contrasted him to “actual progressives”.
You act like I’m part of the Biden campaign just because I didn’t but into hokey conspiracies or claim that he is somehow worse than Trump.
You are the Biden campaign on ktt pretty much any time Biden is critiqued in this thread you jump in to defend him