KuntaKinte

6y

No it wouldn't. This is KTT, and niggas do that s*** all the time.

This is the 2nd time I had to do that s*** lmao. He thinks I'm white because I disagree with his political ideology. It's deadass the same poster doing it lmao

Also I say nigga if I want to, nigga

ThisAuburnNigga

6y

the kunta kinte name also shed some doubt Im sure lol

KuntaKinte

6y

It's crazy, I have to verify my race online because I'm not a communist/socialist but because I'm the average black voter who aligns with the party that has the largest black american voting block.

That's why I have Mamba blocked. Literal s***poster

Olivear

6y

Yr a f***ing bootlicker

KuntaKinte

6y

Am I supposed to care that a socialist thinks the average person is a bootlicker??

Is this like substantial critique in and of itself?

Politically irrelevant people lashing out in a temper tantrum calling people bootlickers has very little weight when to you, everyone is in fact a boot licker. Overall, I think it would be hypocritical for any of you to be calling anyone a bootlicker when you guys are more apt to stan for totalitarian/authoritarian regimes just to own the libs

Also, you guys are definitely authoritarian/totalitarian/tankies.

You just like pretending that you arent. Youre definitely just larping when the foregone conclusion of your rhetoric is licking the sweat off a North Korea, CCP, Red Guard, Khmer Rouge, etc members boot. In fact, Cuba is still authoritarian.

I have no idea why commies swear they arent actually eating a full course meal of shoe leather. Be wise to have some humility before making statements like these

Tl;dr, being a Communist larper does not mean you arent a bootlicker. These arent mutually exclusive so I have no idea why this is your insult of choice. It has little sting and most people would just point out the fact that most individuals in current day who booty clap for people like Xi, are usually communist. Not to mention everyone else just thinks you guys are conspiracy theory level morons so pointing out that other peopleare bootlickers means nothing when you sound like a tinfoil hat wearing vagrant on a NYC subway line.

Also, didnt I quote you a minute earlier shouting down your throat in another thread? Why dont you quote that instead of a completely unrelated post to make a weird driveby insult.

Olivear

6y

U said nothing worth replying to but as a black person seeing another black person proudly parade the fact “african Americans proudly overwhelmingly support the dems” set me off irl ngl

Imagine being proud that theyve so strongly whipped our people so straight while offering literal f***ing crumbs. Who do you think works does min wage jobs a living wage would help or gets affected by the environment or has the worst healthcare

Imagine being proud it literally took a 75 yr jewish man to even force the dem party to start acknowledging these common sense policies exist

Also im not a socialist dumbass, literally have had countless debates with synopsis

Imagine hving yr brain this warped that it’s dems/republicans or everyone else is communist, socialist nigga what. The republicans and democrats are the most fiscally similar major parties in the developed world dumbass. Most countries liberal party is either pretty center left economically and left wing culturally like canada or they have full On social democratic parties and center right parties like the dem would be their Conservative party.

I just cant see how politically illiterate u hv to be to look at last 40 yrs of dem leadership and say they are nothing short of a center right party

Im mad i even typed this paragraph for yr dumbass but that statement had me heated. Seek help

KuntaKinte

6y

If it set you off, its because your stupid.

You keep talking about replies not being worth it but keep trying to engage in a dialogue.

Dems are currently working to expand healthcare coverage or increase the minimum wage. So what is your f***ing point as if your less realistically feasible party would be doing better if given the chance.

The dems have since acknowledged these priorities. Bernie isnt the first person to even mention UHC, are you actually this stupid?

Hillary, Conyers, etc have all mentioned or been a part of UHC groups specifically.

What is your point.

Also if you are offended that Black Americand are a large voting bloc for Democrats then be offended. No one f***ing cares, its not a monolithic voting block and trying to call everyone a coon for it is cringe when thats the vast majority of where black americans lie along party lines.

No one mentioned it as a good or a bad thing. Your utter low level of intellect is too stupid to comprehend that calling people white for being a constituent of a party that most members of that race happen to fall into is f***ing dumb.

You quoting me like a b**** and getting mad over some other s*** when that was the main point of contention is why I dont value anything you online socialist larpers say. You have absolutely 0 comprehensive skills.

What does you having debates with Synopsis have to do with anything you stupid f***ing ape. Your post are a***ogous to communist/socialist. The world also doesnt revolve around him, so i couldnt care less about your debate history that is probably mired in the same level of dumb s*** youre quoting me with now

Stop f***ing typing at me upset over dumb f***ing s*** as if I f***ing care.

I'm also not even a strong democrat you f***ing clown. I just pointed out that calling people white for being a democrat or defending then is a f***ing stupid statement when the strongest voting bloc in that party are black americans.

Stop being a b****, if youre too stupid to understand this then youre wasting my time fr and this convo ends here. I deadass dont care about your 18 year old angst about political parties

The statement had you heated because you are literally 19 years old and just spout edge propaganda.

Im deadass about to block you if I have to see you quote me with another 12th grade level take because youre too dumb to properly compartmentalize your feelings.

Olivear

6y

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U talked politics/rhetoric for 10 sentences total and started ranting like an insane person but ok I will break it down for you.

Hillary clinton is not for universal healthcare, democratic politicians in large are not for universal healthcare. We’ve seen 40 years of dem leadership and no matter how people like u cry and try to gaslight we know what democratic politicians believe bcus hear me out, theyve literally f***ing showed us

Again now if they seem more eager bcus they realize people want it, hear me out again it took a 76 yr old jewish man for them to even start embracing smth resembling a public option, 2nd tier plan. Idk how to explain this even but again hear me out...in politics policies can be labeled bro based on agreed upon social scientific standards. So take obamacare, a literal Center right esque policy. The fringeness of the Republican party dsnt change tht. The dems controlled govt...and they came with a center right plan bcus they are economically center right

Now we hear talk of a public option type thing. This still isnt a center left policy (smth like kamalas plan if the phase out time for private non supplemental primary care insurance was slightly shorter would be center left and bernies solidly left) it’s creeping solidly and slowly to the center so for now theyre MIGHT be movement. We dnt kno, if biden wins he’ll either validate me or you (hint it’ll be me) and 3 yrs from now you’ll be in here crying trying to still convince us the dems Arent a right leaning party and all they need is the right opportunity to show us their True social democratic, labor party colors

Also im a social democrat, I believe in capitalism, believe in prosperity. Yr so fried that someone that is just solidly left wing, not fringe or socialist or whatever seems like a communist

KuntaKinte

6y

Bro, stop f***ing quoting me

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_health_care_plan_of_1993

You idiots think the USA works one way when it doesn't, it works the other way(guess what that means) and if you left whatever bubble of a state you live in. You would understand what the f*** I'm talking about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Conyers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Health_Care_Act

I'm tired of you apes quoting me because you don't understand the political landscape of the country and why things are the way they are.

ALSO, in your initial post, you said Joe Manchin and Biden were similar. You also said Biden was uniquely right wing for the party

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/joe_manchin/412391
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/joseph_biden/300008

Stop f***ing quoting me with your garbage level takes. I am a Social Democrat, you may be as well, but you're stupid and bite f***ing moron rhetoric to the point where we aren't even arguing policy.

You think voting Democrat makes me a liberal? You don't even know anything about my political stances. You're just some idiot with poor deductive and/or inductive reasoning skills appealing to base heuristics like government bad when you don't even understand why things are the way they are.
So theres no reason to listen to some political neophyte spamming my f***ing mentions because they assume they know what they're talking about when on it's face, half of the s*** you say is dumb.

This conversation is done. Stop f***ing wasting my time

Olivear

6y

Whoa one leftwing healthcare policy and one center left policy that failed to reach concensu with overwhelming broad range of elected dems I wonder why....... Maybe because majority are center right on economics 😳😳😳?????

Also fam what does that joe biden chart prove

There isnt a single social scientist in the world that would call joe bidens career anything other than conservative on economics lmaoo. Shiet as recent as 30-15 yrs ago he was conservative on cultural and societal issues like war or criminal justice as well

Talking to u is literally making my head hurt. U dnt sound well

Hv s good night man

KuntaKinte

6y

Am I supposed to care that a socialist thinks the average person is a bootlicker??

Is this like substantial critique in and of itself?

Politically irrelevant people lashing out in a temper tantrum calling people bootlickers has very little weight when to you, everyone is in fact a boot licker. Overall, I think it would be hypocritical for any of you to be calling anyone a bootlicker when you guys are more apt to stan for totalitarian/authoritarian regimes just to own the libs

Also, you guys are definitely authoritarian/totalitarian/tankies.

You just like pretending that you arent. Youre definitely just larping when the foregone conclusion of your rhetoric is licking the sweat off a North Korea, CCP, Red Guard, Khmer Rouge, etc members boot. In fact, Cuba is still authoritarian.

I have no idea why commies swear they arent actually eating a full course meal of shoe leather. Be wise to have some humility before making statements like these

Tl;dr, being a Communist larper does not mean you arent a bootlicker. These arent mutually exclusive so I have no idea why this is your insult of choice. It has little sting and most people would just point out the fact that most individuals in current day who booty clap for people like Xi, are usually communist. Not to mention everyone else just thinks you guys are conspiracy theory level morons so pointing out that other peopleare bootlickers means nothing when you sound like a tinfoil hat wearing vagrant on a NYC subway line.

Also, didnt I quote you a minute earlier shouting down your throat in another thread? Why dont you quote that instead of a completely unrelated post to make a weird driveby insult.

KuntaKinte

6y

It's making your head hurt because you're stupid. What even is this post? Do you think I'm debating on left vs right?

I'm specifically replying to claims that Hillary didn't support a form of UHC. When she did

I'm specifically replying to claims that Biden and Joe Manchin are the same and that Joe is uniquely right wing for the Democratic party.

Notice what you're doing? That level of bad faith that you condone onto other individuals? I hope to god, that in life, you are treated with this same lack of understanding and I hope you realize, how much you hate the people around you when they fail to contextualize or investigate your backgrounds or the intent of your actions via a good faith lens.

You aren't stupid, because you're left wing. You're stupid because you have such low level reasoning skills that I have to explain why I'm even posting in response.

It's entirely possible to criticize the Democratic/Republican (Yes, even them) party in a harsh manner without spouting utter lies or conspiracy level theories about them breaking the law or actively working to kill people. All you idiots do is make reasonable conversation hard for the rest of us when you spam these dumb f***ing ideologue takes and mislead the layman lurking a thread who won't even bother to google anything because your dumb f***ing post appeals to their confirmation bias.

I don't sound well, because I don't care to be kind to people espousing harmful rhetoric online that hurts other people.

Gojira

6y

dems arent centre right you morons

Gojira

6y

communism is more right than the dems are

Olivear

6y

Hv u studied any other countries politics for a second in yr life or better yet read a Wikipedia page

Gojira

6y

no i am just an echo chamber like all my other comrades

Olivear

6y

You type centre instead of center yr not even American goodbye

Olivear

6y

Ok

And in 2016 hrc run on advocating for “bolstering” to aca which by RAND institute woudve hv covered an additional 400,000-9 million out of 28 million uninsured Americans? Not to talk of additional literal hundreds of thousands tht go bankrupt

What is that honestly other than a centrist policy. It isnt center left or left wing

What do u even think im arguing dumbass.

Im literally just making a factual observation of what dem ECONOMIC policies hv been for yrs. Center to center right and how dangerous those policies are to black people was my original point

KuntaKinte

6y

She ran on bolstering the ACA because they failed to get a public option, let alone single payer.

Are you seriously this dumb? The'yre trying to get people healthcare now via incrementally expanding coverage. Theyre not trying to wait f***ing 10 years to get people f***ing UHC.

This is literally why Biden said he would veto M4A if individuals had to wait a lengthy transition process.

His direct f***ing words "I would veto anything that delays providing the security and the certainty of health care being available now,"
Biden himself even plugs the fact that he could expand coverage using the ACA in the quickest manner possible (Whether this is true or not, is another argument)

The ACA, exists now! And it's meant to be built on. I'm not f***ing surprised, that Hillary Clinton is building on a plan that was enacted during an administration, she worked under.

Why do you guys post these stupid f***ing gotcha attempts. Like you actually made a f***ing point?

You're arguing some stupid f***ing left-right wing dichotomy to paint democrats as bad as opposed to the reality of the situation.

You aren't making a factual observation, otherwise, you wouldn't be saying s*** like Joe Biden and Joe Manchin are the same, or Joe Biden is uniquely right wing amongst his contemporaries.

Center to Center right policies? Democrats are not a monolithic group and are left leaning on most, if not all social issues and have been moving leftward over time.

I have no idea why you dumb f***s post like this. You have a greater likelihood of the Democrats voting themselves into irrelevancy by voting for a candidate who will support changing the FPTP voting system. You are arguing nothing substantial, nothing important, nothing that matters, in an incrementalist environment where good bills die ad nauseam because Democrats don't exist in an isolated environment. They actively are competing with another party for political power that would be content doing nothing rather than improving the lives of many of their constituents.

Stop f***ing posting

Olivear

6y

So bidens bill that is estimated to leave millions of the 28 million uninsured FOREVER even after FULL IMPLEMENTATION due to the upfront cost barrier will take shorter than bernies plan that would hv achieved universality in 3 years is the one that wont provide stop gaps right? U see how insane biden sounds and u sound for regurgitating this s***. There are full time economists smarter than me and u at think tanks who’s job it is to do these projections and their study literally said at the end of his people will STILL be uninsured!!!

Bcus biden really thinks is a moral failure thousands die due to healthcare coverage and he totally just wsnt rambling and let mask slip cus he’s near senile

No honestly bro pls explain that to me.
No rhetoric just explain... bcus im sure as learned as u are u surely didnt mistake bidens plan as a universal plan right????

Im aware the republicans are insane but they’re not the reason dems manufacture their initial policy drafts come tf on bro

Dem elected leadership at the top is unwilling and thats it

Also ive clearly specified economics. Dems are center left on SOME social issues but their foreign policy is center right