Only hip hop artist that check all of the boxes during their prime runs:
Dre
Ye
Pac
BIG
Maybe Em and 50. That's it. Nobody else.
Wayne
Biggest Kendrick hit was...BDKMV? Swimming Pools? Alright?
We not gonna rewrite history and act like Kendrick was out here making smash hit records left and right lol his strength was his albums being classic and his rap being elite. The rest has caught up these last few years. Don't think its debatable
first two are huge what...
Sometimes I listen to Yeezus and I’m always thinking what the hell was he cooking
We will never have something like this again
To the extent Kendrick and Kanye killed the genre, it would primarily be due to the fact they brought a bunch of indie rock hipsters and pop heads into hip hop and now we have to listen to you all b**** and moan constantly, acting like experts despite secretly having the utmost disdain for the genre and culture
but you keep minimizing your point to “clones” when we know that is not how influence works unless it was Wayne/Keef/Thug and keep ignoring direct quotes from the artists about that artists influence on their music
just because you ain’t see direct clones, doesn’t mean influence didn’t exist. where are the Drake clones even tho he’s the biggest rapper ever? you saw more Thug/soundcloud clones but who’s to say Drake didn’t influence artists like Rod Wave who are the biggest of their generation?
you reasoning focused on clones doesn’t make sense
If it wasn't for Wayne it wouldn't be...
a lot of dudes in the game, including me
One of the worst threads on here
Lot of ppl need their hip hop card revoked
Is you saying this because of op or because of other users itt
but you keep minimizing your point to “clones” when we know that is not how influence works unless it was Wayne/Keef/Thug and keep ignoring direct quotes from the artists about that artists influence on their music
just because you ain’t see direct clones, doesn’t mean influence didn’t exist. where are the Drake clones even tho he’s the biggest rapper ever? you saw more Thug/soundcloud clones but who’s to say Drake didn’t influence artists like Rod Wave who are the biggest of their generation?
you reasoning focused on clones doesn’t make sense
I took the whole "mmlp ruined hip hop" point more as a claim that the album or eminem had a direct influence on the genre that spawned a wave of mcs who ran with that exact style or tried to become eminem 2.0, kind of like how some people argue wayne "ruined" hip hop by creating a bunch of clones
my point is that aside from the undeniable inspiration eminem gave countless rappers (because he was simply a phenomenal rapper) the overall sound of the genre stayed mostly untouched, his influence was too loose because he was way too unique and the circumstances that shaped him were too specific for anyone to just replicate him directly, I think we're kind of talking past each other here... on the point that eminem was impactful and inspiring, I 100% agree with you
Growing up is realizing people claim they love things but they really love potential not the thing that’s in front of them but what it can grow into.
Hip hop audience is very guilty of this.
This called music sxn but I can count on 2 hands the folks on this site that really LOVE music
@lonny860 @Oblivion99 @YoungNastyShawty @proper @provider @Aquilla @mdmadon
(I know i miss a few)
Folks like @op never realizing they themselves are part of the problem is why we never gon be free.
Quoting this like he isn’t talking about you lmaooo
nigga was hyper a***yzing Kendrick lyrics in the numbers thread and saying the bar has been lowered and he expects more from him
can’t make this s*** up bro
Growing up is realizing people claim they love things but they really love potential not the thing that’s in front of them but what it can grow into.
Hip hop audience is very guilty of this.
This called music sxn but I can count on 2 hands the folks on this site that really LOVE music
@lonny860 @Oblivion99 @YoungNastyShawty @proper @provider @Aquilla @mdmadon
(I know i miss a few)
Folks like @op never realizing they themselves are part of the problem is why we never gon be free.
appreciate the shoutout man!
its actually insane how that one diplomatic immunity line has a triple entendre and people get confused on why i consider drake the goat
nigga be walking around scaring the hoes with this line like “ugh, don’t get it baby girl”
appreciate the shoutout man!
I said i know i missed a few
These folks consistently make threads about new artists. Even if some of them arent my speed, that’s as legitimate a music lover as any.
I said i know i missed a few
These folks consistently make threads about new artists. Even if some of them arent my speed, that’s as legitimate a music lover as any.
I would make more threads on the s*** I enjoy but it'd prob get like 4 replies and one of those would be @fka_sebastien saying "we need to do something about OP"
I would make more threads on the s*** I enjoy but it'd prob get like 4 replies and one of those would be @fka_sebastien saying "we need to do something about OP"
Listen if KIR can make brainrot threads you might as well lol
Guys no matter how much you want it to be, Kendrick and Kanye’s discog are not the same. Kanye’s classics influenced and shaped hip hop sound every time and spawned multiple babies. People heard tpab and said f*** that conscious jazz rap s***. Nothing against jazz rap. It’s just if you’re gonna be creative, you have to make it sound good for people to wanna emulate it. That’s the issue we have rn. The weird creatives are not making good enough music
Growing up is realizing people claim they love things but they really love potential not the thing that’s in front of them but what it can grow into.
Hip hop audience is very guilty of this.
This called music sxn but I can count on 2 hands the folks on this site that really LOVE music
@lonny860 @Oblivion99 @YoungNastyShawty @proper @provider @Aquilla @mdmadon
(I know i miss a few)
Folks like @op never realizing they themselves are part of the problem is why we never gon be free.
Brother I sacrificed my soul, sanity, and well being for music going to school for and perusing it professionally for over a decade.. If that's not love idk what is. But i see where you are coming from to a certain extent though. I definitely don't love it UNCONDITIONALLY lol. If that means I'm part of the problem so be it but yeah I don't like basic poorly executed s*** man idk lol
but i don't like s*** that lacks polish either so there is that, very specific
Guys no matter how much you want it to be, Kendrick and Kanye’s discog are not the same. Kanye’s classics influenced and shaped hip hop sound every time and spawned multiple babies. People heard tpab and said f*** that conscious jazz rap s***. Nothing against jazz rap. It’s just if you’re gonna be creative, you have to make it sound good for people to wanna emulate it. That’s the issue we have rn. The weird creatives are not making good enough music
i really need us to stop comparing them lmfao like kendrick has a flawless discog but what his music and what ye's music did were completely different and the only thing thats similar is the meta critic scores deadass
If there was a biggest cry baby on ktt award you would win it
If there was an award for most delusional user then a lot of Kendrick fans would compete for the title. Horrid thread and we often - very often - get those kind of delusional takes from them
i really need us to stop comparing them lmfao like kendrick has a flawless discog but what his music and what ye's music did were completely different and the only thing thats similar is the meta critic scores deadass
Kendrick stans do that because Kanye actually showed us what a classic discog looks like. Replayable masterpieces that sound great while influencing the genre. Not just critic bait albums
that era of rap was gta 5
its taking longer for the next generation to come because of that, its that simple
its really this yall niggas just dont realize that the music we had was the absolute peak of rap as we know it and we have to rebuild culturally to ever get back to a point like that
covid and trump set us back so bad and i dont think we have actually accepted that