They are older I think trying to stay relevant and lecture us about life has an expiration date. I dont want to hear Jay Z who was fine with MSG gentrification, says capitalist was a word used to oppress him and billionaire talk tell me about life. Go back to those songs you were singing when you were poorer and could relate to a human being like me. You have changed class levels and now you talk down to me but remind me of when you were at the same level or close to it and knew you would be who you are now. thats what people want to hear man. Same applies to Ye with becoming a billionaire and the greatest now

yes he playing cant tell me nothing on every date. the idea of believing in yourself for years then finding a way resonates with people and that core person still being there even after the darkness

being 40-50 telling 20-35 year olds I did it you can do it too in an entirely different time. When they are paying for 5 streaming services. One to stream your music. One to watch your concert. Another to get your vinyl shippped ot them overnight is just not s*** we trying to hear for the most part.

Once you reach a certain level of rich you become detached from the normal human being. Also many top rappers been dropping both

Lupe did a Samurai tour, then food and liquor anniversary tour and is now with gym class heroes. A lot of these artist on anniversary tours are older with children and not even in the physical or mental shape to do a tour for too long or much longer so why not give people the hits

they young and damn near kids so I am not expecting them to understand. If Spice girls were fully reformed. If Britney Spears was fully within herself and toured that b**** would be beyond packed out.

Britney Spears would sell out arenas in ways you dont even understand.

brother breaking out graphs and conspiracies when multiple of my women friends went and saw Hillary Duff. Its not that complicated .

she was more popular than god in church when I was a youngling she was embedded into the cultural zeitgeist for millennials. I think people being confused by the demand were not around during that era.

I think a lot of people didnt grow up in that era because Disney Channel, Cartoon network and Nickelodeon was straight domination

but when it came to live action it was basically just disney channel and oriignal movies every week formed the culture. That is even why we have things like hocus pocus 3

Raven entire career was skyrocketed from disney channel
shia labeouf before he fell off

Ariana grande nickelodeon

like the list goes on and on

so many memes and culture comes from 90s kids who watched those shows and grew up. People being happy the artist they loved are alive, touring, in good mental state have kids now and want to support isnt some large conpsiracy theory

Tik tok isnt limited to teenagers. Though I am sure she has gained some teenage fans who now can watch through her entire career and see that she gained that level of following before social media was really a thing like that. One of the few that didnt go crazy or burn out because she knew when to step to the side and take a break from music and tv shows.

Haven’t really read up but Lizzy Mcguire was doing Jackson numbers in the UK

Its moments when we actually discuss music in the section that I realize how out of touch with reality so many are. Next people in here going to say Afrobeats or Reggaeton doesnt have an insane audience with djs playing their music because "I always hear not like us when I am out ". You are limited to your circle and who you interact with but there is an entire world out there. Rap acts only put so much effort into their performance so yes a singer who goes out there has back up dancers and sings is going to boom

S*** Tinashe disney channel too and been dropping music throughout her career I saw her live before Nasty took off. Women like supporting non controversial women artist that put their heart into their work.

parents got nostalgia and know they can take their kids to the show expect low drama and fights because they there for nostalgia

this applies to most anniversary shows everyone is there to relive a moment so if s*** gets weird people are like "why you trying to fight or be on bullshit here" there is a mutually agreed upon code.

yea so all I’m saying is if we follow your line of thinking, these older artists aren’t necessarily trying to lead, but they are trying to still be “the guy” while giving out advice that doesn’t necessarily lead anyone anywhere lmao

It’s a lot different than a TI putting money in Travis pocket and leveraging his history to get Travis in a room with a Kanye or a Mike Dean that allowed him to develop as an artist into a mega star within his peers where Travis didn’t have to rely on a TIP or Kanye for his biggest album…but at the same time a Kanye, compared to Travis’ manager TI, wasn’t taking a step back…he was actively competing with the 2 generations after him instead of standing apart as a leader for them

that’s my problem with why s*** is getting stifled

I mean she was Hannah Montanna before Hannah Montanna so you remove the rap bullshit Hannah did, the twerking the controversies the d**** and then going back to country . You have someone who doesnt try to do all the corny fake stuff and is just themselves throughout their career and knows when to take a break none of it is shocking

this was my Freddie and iCarly

I mean the new generation of artist a lot of them arent people you can elevate in that way when it comes to rap because rap specifically is programmed by tik tok and record labels wanting certain content to be talked about or consumed. The construction of the Cool. Hillary Duff and these other women can sing about a much wider range of topics and be successful because people are at the end of the day there for the voice and the emotions it evokes.
Rap voice matters for sure but we are there for whatever the words and the production brings out of us specifically which for much modern/ underground recently is focused on turn up , club music, lean music

I dont want 40-50 year olds lecturing me when they are often no longer on the same level of class in private jets and million dollar houses but I also dont want them telling me about how often they are partying

I would go see Miranda Cosgrove in concert just to hear the iCarly theme in the flesh

if Daft Punk did one date anywhere in the world next year I would fly there

"anywhere"